posted by BatCountry9000
Anyone who is familiar with me will know that, when it comes to জীবন্ত shows, I always watch the english dub. I only watch জীবন্ত with subs if the জীবন্ত hasn't been dubbed yet (which is usually the case for most of the জীবন্ত I watch) অথবা has been dubbed দ্বারা a company I don't trust (I'm looking at you, Ocean Productions).
However, it seems that according to the অনুরাগী of anime, watching english dubs is a sin against god. They think that the english language is terrible and would prefer the japanese language. Honestly, this makes me sick. It makes me sick to my stomach, and it pisses me off to absolutely no end at all.
People who hate english dubs will often use these arguments whenever on the subject.
"Subtitles give আপনি the same experience the japanese viewers received"
Sorry, but no. The experience আপনি get from subtitles is no better than watching it english dubbed. In fact, it's worse, since not only are আপনি unable to understand the voices, the stupid text at the bottom blocks the art. Do আপনি think that the japanese watched it with text at the bottom?
Also, when I watch জীবন্ত with subtitles, আপনি know what experience I get? I get the experience of পাঠ করা a book. As someone who enjoys পাঠ করা Stephen King books, I don't want that. I want the experience of watching a TV show, since that's exactly what I'm doing.
"The জীবন্ত is censored when it's dubbed"
আপনি know what? Yeah. You're right. Some জীবন্ত is censored when translated into english. আপনি want to know WHY that is?
It's because the company in charge of dubbing is... oh, I don't know, AIMING IT TOWARDS KIDS?! Most of the জীবন্ত অনুরাগী I know of are teenagers (usually around my age) অথবা young adults (usually around the age of 20). Companies like DiC and 4Kids! aren't aiming the dubbed জীবন্ত at teenagers and young adults. They're aiming it at kids.
If they see something that they deem inappropriate for little kids, they'll সম্পাদনা it out. It was the case with DiC and Sailor Moon (yes, I am aware that Sailor Uranus and Neptune are cousins in the dub and not lesbians. Frankly, it's a change that I can live with), and it was the case with 4Kids! and most of the জীবন্ত they dubbed.
"The original japanese voices are always the best"
To those that use this argument... did আপনি even go to school?
I guess not, because if আপনি did, you'd know the definition of the word "original". Original means that it came first, not that it's better. I haven't watched Cowboy Bebop, but I know that most অনুরাগী consider the english dub দ্বারা Viz Media to be superior to the original japanese dub.
Being the original doesn't mean that it's any better. Saying that the japanese dub is better is pretty much the equivalent of saying "The original রাস্তা Fighter II is better than Super রাস্তা Fighter II Turbo" অথবা "The original Resident Evil on PS1 is better than Resident Evil REmake on the Gamecube".
Subtitles provide a আরো accurate translation
Alright, I'll admit that this argument DOES hold a little water. Sometimes, whenever an জীবন্ত is dubbed, the script does get a change অথবা two. However, that's usually because that certain part of the script doesn't exactly translate well.
Here's an example. In One Piece, there was a moment where Zoro referred to Nami as a "komono", which means "little servant". "Little servant" implies that whoever was called that had child-like features, hence why Sanji thought that Zoro called Nami flat-chested (which we know isn't true). The joke doesn't exactly translate well in english. At least Funimation gave it a shot.
"Funimation/Manga Entertainment/4Kids!/Ocean Productions/*insert dubbing company here* always uses the same voice actors over an over again"
I don't really know about that. Last time I checked, japanese voice actors had just as many, if not more, roles as american voice actors. Romi Park and Vic Mignogna have almost the same amount of জীবন্ত roles.
Besides, I think it's good that voice actors are used over and over again. It shows that the voice actor has skill and can voice many different characters. It's the reason why Christopher Sabat is my পছন্দ english voice actor.
"The japanese voice actors are way better"
Let me ask আপনি this. Are আপনি japanese? Can আপনি understand japanese? Can আপনি recognize when japanese voices are good? No? Then shut the hell up, because আপনি are in absolutely no position to say that.
Breaking out of the realm of জীবন্ত and jumping into the realm of video games for a little bit, I want আপনি to listen to both the english voice অভিনয় and japanese voice অভিনয় of Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 (only for the Capcom characters, since the Marvel characters always speak english).
Compare Chris Redfield's japanese voice to his english voice.
Compare Morrigan's japanese voice to her english voice.
Compare Spencer's japanese voice to his english voice.
Compare Phoenix Wright / Naruhodo-kun's japanese voice to his english voice.
Chris Redfield's japanese voice sounds laughably bad. However, I will cut him some slack, since Chris has never been voiced in japanese before. The japanese releases of the Resident Evil games always had the characters speak in english with japanese subtitles.
Morrigan's japanese voice tries way, way, WAY too hard to sound "sexy", "seductive", and "orgasmic". Seriously, it sounds like she's taking a good dump and having an orgasm at the same time. Disappointing, since her voice in Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom kicked ass.
Spencer's japanese voice is just... ugh. No words can describe how horrible it is. Sorry, but the epic line known as "BIONIC AAAAAAAARRRRRMMMMM" clearly wasn't made to be ব্যক্ত in japanese.
Phoenix Wright / Naruhodo-kun's japanese voice sounds like he just drank over 9000 (no pun intended) cups of coffee, which is ironic, since Wright isn't exactly a অনুরাগী of hot coffee being thrown at him.
Try telling me that japanese voices are always better after listening to those.
Those were some of the arguments that sub প্রেমী use against dubs. Needless to say, they're all stupid.
Now, let me say this. Whenever I watch anime, I want to WATCH it. With subtitles, আপনি have to take your eyes to the bottom of the damn screen (thus causing আপনি to miss something going on) and READ. If I wanted to READ, I'd grab my freaking Stephen King বই off my shelf. I seriously cannot stress this enough. জীবন্ত is for WATCHING, not READING. I want to WATCH anime. WATCH it, not READ it.
And some of আপনি will probably say "Oh, it won't matter if you're a fast reader". NO, motherfuckers. It DOES matter. And I say that as a fast reader who can scan his eyeballs across the screen fairly quickly.
Anyways, I hope that this rant convinces আপনি that english dubs aren't as bad as the retards out there make them out to be. I will close this with a quote.
"I'd rather not READ a TV show" -Vic Mignogna
posted by Shassie
Since my computer wont let my put this in the ফোরাম I'm লেখা this out in an article.
I am a devoted Pandora Hearts অনুরাগী and want another season. Even if আপনি don't watch Pandora Hearts I would still প্রণয় It if আপনি signed this online petition. It would mean the world to me if আপনি did.
Right now only about 3,500 people have signed the petition and since there are 26,228 জীবন্ত অনুরাগী we could really bring the numbers up if আপনি sign আপনি could change writer Jun Mochizuki's mind :)