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Do আপনি consider Twilight sexist?

Maybe I've watched just a liiiiittle bit too much Buffy/Veronica Mars, but when I read Twilight, I was disgusted with Meyer's main females. Bella can't survive without a man in her life, Esme lives to clean up after her 'children', Rosalie is obsessed with beauty, and Alice's deepest thoughts seem to be "OMG SHOPPING SHOPPING SHOPPING! CLOTHES MONEY YAY!"
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LadyLilith said:
I DEFINITELY think so. And none of them are really independent women; they're ALL submissive to the men in their lives. Well, maybe not so much Rosalie (it's somewhat the other way around), but she does seem to have vanity issues. And she's considered one of the bitches of the story because she's not as dependent on Emmett as the other women in the story are dependent on their men, and because she actually seems to THINK for herself and have her own, separate opinion (i.e. not wanting to accept Bella into their lives).

I'm not even going to talk about Bella, as her relationship with Edward and her utter dependence on him has already been discussed many a time. So I'm moving on to Alice. I can see why some people like her, as she appears to have that quirky, weird persona about her. But if আপনি look deeper (actually it's not that deep at all), she really is quite a shallow character. Girls have every right to be girly and like clothes and looking pretty whatnot...we're girls, after all. We tend to like that crap. But it seems all she cares about are clothes and expensive cars and things. She acts like a spoiled little preppy girl, not a weird, interesting character. And though she's described as 'bubbly,' I see her as annoying, and not really actually having much personality at all.

I feel awful for Esme, because she's rarely in the বই and for the most part no one knows WHAT the hell she's doing. Did আপনি know that she was an architect? Yeah, apparently she is. I read that somewhere. I don't know if it's true অথবা not (since I haven't read the বই since I was a fan), but if it is, I never would have remembered that unless someone had told me. Does Meyer ever talk about her job? Do any of the other girls have jobs? No.

The only female character I really like from Twilight is Leah (ironically my baby sister is named after her :D). She's strong, independent of men, and she actually has flaws and a personality. And she's treated like an unruly bitch, has horrible things happen to her, and then she never gets a happy ending. Whereas EVERYONE in almost the whole goddamn series gets paired up with someone in the end. I think that's another form of sexism in the book, btw. That's not what I mean দ্বারা a happy ending for Leah, though. Just SOMETHING. She deserved SOME happiness after all the shit she'd went through, and having to endure stupid characters.

Anyway, sorry if I offended anyone. These are my opinions on the issue. Peace!♥
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oo i like ur respoonse
heheiamme posted বছরখানেক আগে
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আপনি just summarised everything I wanted to say - I agree completely about Leah. She is my favourite character (Seth being my second-favourite) and actually has depth, unlike nearly every other character. Rosalie is good as well...yeah, my favourite Twilight characters are the ones with backstory and depth. And of course, there's Bella-Sue and her anti-feminist ways. That four-month depression phase was completely unrealistic, and it was made very clear that she only began feeling better when the next-hottest guy in town started paying attention to her. And then there's the fact that we never seem to see her doing anything other than cooking and cleaning for her father, অথবা spending time with her boyfriend.
ChocAttack266 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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I agree completely about Leah. Meyer makes her out to be some দুশ্চরিত্রা because she doesn't have a man to hang on to. She wnt through crap in her life. She should get some happiness in her life, and because Meyer thinks she needs a man to be happy, technically she DID have a man. So she should get a shred of happiness :)]
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MadamOcta13 said:
My biggest issue is BELLA. She's insecure about herself (this is proven দ্বারা how she's constantly complaining about how clumsy and non-perfect she is), shallow (there wouldn't be people saying that Meyer used "thesaurus rape" if she never droned on and on about how georgeous, perfect, sparkly, hansome, and perfect Edward is), and she feels like there's no reason to exist if Edward isn't right beside her 24/7 (when he leaves her, she attempts suicidal stunts just to "hear his voice again"). She can't think, feel, speak, অথবা even breathe without Edward's consent. It's pathetic and it's poisoning the minds of young girls; it's giving them the wrong idea that this is not only a healthy relationship, but that it's the "perfect" one.
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I প্রণয় your explanation XD
ryomaidol posted বছরখানেক আগে
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absolute perfect explaination
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AprilCandy42 said:
Actually Yes! I do think Twilight is Sexist and Anti-Feminist! Reasons:

We begin with the main character in the story, Bella.

Bella: Is described to be clumsy, and stubborn, she is the new girl in the school and suddenly, you'd see several guys swooning over her like frantical idiots and the so called "hottest guy in school", Edward, realises that Bella's the only one good for him because she smells good (getting perverted are we, Edwart?). Edward likes her because of her smell, disregarding her behavior and such, even watching Bella in her sleep. Bella's also very inconsiderate of her friends, seeing as whenever she gets a boyfriend, she leaves her other বন্ধু at Forks. She loves Edward so much, much to the point of only meeting for a few years then desiring sex.

Alice: Is a girl probably brainwashed into thinking all about shopping and what-not. She can predict the future without taking any Divination Lessons at Hogwarts, and is described to be bubbly and pixie-like, although, she's a shopping addict and usually into the so-called latest trends. She's actually a shallow character, a girly one, but sure I'm a girl, although, a lot of girls are boyish and she seems to be a patron to those girly girls. She's not really the very good girl, she went into an asylum because she can predict the future and it doesn't make her that bubbly.

Rosalie: Is the girl who hated Bella and wanted to kill her and kidnap her baby, and I nearly liked her for that! But really, she's sometimes just into beauty, makeup, etc. But sometimes I do like her for hating Bella so much. She's actually quite an interesting character because not much is revealed about her past and I'm actually itching to learn আরো about her. She's believed to be the most beautiful person in the world, so beautiful that she got raped and murdered.
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Her past is ষাঁড় shit. She lived a nice rish life during the depression because her father was a banker. Do আপনি know WHY the depression happened? BECAUSE THE BANKS FAILED. Logic fail. -_-; *facepalms over and over*
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DJ_Squeaky said:
I never thought it was sexist, I thought that the girls in it were closer to modern girls(at least in my experience no offense to anyone) but you're right if you're gonna write a story write about independent, strong women! :)
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That's the problem: girls today are too dependant on their boyfriends. Boys are like accesorries to girls. If they don't have one, they go looking for one because they feel they HAVE to have one.
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dakky said:
i agree!! with the Bella part anyz =/
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italiangirl976 said:
No I never thought it was sexist. I thought Bella was some what weak but I didn't think it was sexist.

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"Being weak" isn't the problem (in my opinion). I understand that it's the nature of the Meyerpire to be stronger than humans; I'm fine with that. It's the way Bella reacts to Edward leaving her that makes me disgusted.
MadamOcta13 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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Thats what I mean দ্বারা weak. Not physically but emotionally. For example how she can't live without Edward.
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LilRavenclaw95 said:
YES! Bella spends 90% of her time cooking/cleaning for her father, Alice is always shopping, and Esme is a total example of a fifties stay at প্রথমপাতা mom. Not to mention, all the strong female characters (i.e., Leah and Rosalie) are antagonists, and viewed badly. It's awful, and is totally anti-feminist. Not to mention Bella is a total damsel in distress.
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Word up, sister. :/ -Points to long rant above-
LadyLilith posted বছরখানেক আগে
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I never thought of how much Bella cooks for Charlie before...
MadamOcta13 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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Me neither হাঃ হাঃ হাঃ
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