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Why is Harry Potter আরো successful than Twilight?

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JaseKS said:
Because it appeals to all tastes.

Romance: There is some slight romantic appeal that applies to most characters.

Horror: It has a horror edge to it.

Fantasy: Wizards. Nuff' said.


Where as Twilight contains mostly romance. It also isn't that well written. Stephanie Myers uses large words that no one else does in a casual conversation just to hide the fact that she has an underdeveloped style of writing.


Also, the problem with Twilight is, many of the characters are underdeveloped. I mean, people like Jasper অথবা Victoria could be awesome characters, but Stephanie is too busy focousing on one character. Edward. And even he is underdeveloped.

I also thing that because all the guys are fawning over Bella, it doesn't seem relatable. At least the characters in Harry Potter have flaws, making them আরো realistic. It also has a solid back story, and isn't as scattered. I feel like the events in twilight are a jumbled mess.
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I see the logic in this. A book that appales to a wide variety of audiences is bound to have আরো success. But Twilight is on the horror edge too.
zanhar1 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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I suppose, it depends on how আপনি look at it, I guess.
JaseKS posted বছরখানেক আগে
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'Tis true it all depends on how much gore one can handle.
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alisonfaith297 said:
there are 5 main reasons:
#1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an সামগ্রিক score of film considering all possible critic scores)
HP average scores: 74%
Twilight: 51%

SCores দ্বারা Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way)
HP average: 85%
twilight average:39%

#2 HP বই are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for লেখক of the year, (take note, when her book gain আরো popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case আপনি dont know, is an extremely well noted লেখক in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted দ্বারা the stories, দ্বারা the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's লেখা to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a নিরাপদ joining of প্রণয় and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm অথবা run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet."

#3 That quote দ্বারা stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist অথবা anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in প্রণয় with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart.

#4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it আরো of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story আপনি can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable.

#5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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 there are 5 main reasons: #1 the HP films have gained much better critic reception than the twilight films, seriously, based on metacritic (which is a well recognized sites where is gives an সামগ্রিক score of film considering all possible critic scores) HP average scores: 74% Twilight: 51% SCores দ্বারা Rotten Tomatoes (another site which gather up scores but calculates in a different way) HP average: 85% twilight average:39% #2 HP বই are way better in literary terms, JKR has won quite a few prestigious book awards while steph meyer has only gain some titles from places such as entertainment weekly for লেখক of the year, (take note, when her book gain আরো popularity, JKR published majority of the HP novels already). to back up my story more, this is a quote from Stephen king (who in case আপনি dont know, is an extremely well noted লেখক in the literary world): "the real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, and Stephenie Meyer can't write worth a darn. She's not very good.people are attracted দ্বারা the stories, দ্বারা the pace and in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it's very clear that she's লেখা to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a নিরাপদ joining of প্রণয় and sex in those books. It's exciting and it's thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because it's not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like, the vampire will touch her forearm অথবা run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet." #3 That quote দ্বারা stephen king leds to my third point, speaking as a female of this generation ( not to be feminist অথবা anything), i find that the entire story of twilight to be very demeaning, it makes it sound like all girls can do is not help to fall in প্রণয় with a guy and if the guy were to leave her, her whole world will fall apart. #4 to be honest, i dont see much plot in the movies, it আরো of people screaming over the fact that taylor lautner has nice abs, and robert patterson is sparkly??? In HP, there is an actually story আপনি can follow while twilight plot just seems to be predictable. #5 lets just be honest here, most of us here would rather watch a good battle between good and evil ( Harry Vs Voldy) while watch a girl named bella, fall for some guy and well the rest is history.
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everything আপনি ব্যক্ত is true and i প্রণয় the picture
noobio7143 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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^When did she say that King was a jerk solely because he doesn't support Twilight?
VampiresRevenge posted বছরখানেক আগে
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No, I didn't mention Twilight.
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cassie-1-2-3 said:
Financially?
আরো people have bought the Harry Potter বই and movies.
That is all.

I think they're both pretty much equal when it comes to any other form of success.
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thats not true, the only way in success that twilight is আরো successful. and that would be twilight saga site has আরো অনুরাগী than HP site on FANPOP.
alisonfaith297 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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ok.. hold on.. just stop right there.. HP বই ARE WAY BETTER.. আপনি can argue about the movie an i agree it tends to go back and forth but when it comes to book.. NO FEAKIN WAY! the hp বই are way better, granted some peopel just bought the বই for the sake of পাঠ করা but HP বই in the literary world is very well received unlike twilight on the other hand...
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Says you, not me. Sorry. I o.ly bought them because I try to complete every series I start, no matter if I like it অথবা not. I had no intention on পাঠ করা any of the বই "quickly", so a লাইব্রেরি was out of the question.
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bri-marie said:
Luck. When it comes to entertainment, that's all it really boils down to.
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luck is one part.. but being lucky can only get আপনি so far...
alisonfaith297 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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Luck is only a factor...
zanhar1 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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Not really. There are বই way better than HP (and Twilight) that are in the shadows. There are বই that are worse than HP (and Twilight) that are extremely popular. J.K. (and Meyer) got lucky.
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I agree, bri-marie.
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noobio7143 said:
because harry potter is better. nuff said.
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Exactly!(like your প্রতীকী btw ^^)
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thanksh
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zanhar1 said:
- it's been around longer
- it's original unlike twilight, there are hundreds of vampire romances
- the অনুরাগী seem আরো dedicated in my opinion
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There are hundreds of wizard adventures too
youknowit101 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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^ yeah pretty much what dracofan ব্যক্ত (I can't believe it! dracofan আপনি make me change my opinion about আপনি just from this one comment!) O_O
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^ Thanks? lmao
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ThePrincesTale said:
Apart from having a better plot, and better characters, and things like that, there are আরো mundane reasons- I will focus on these and try to be unbiased.

One of these is who they are both targetted for. Twilight (mostly) only appeals to teenage girls. Harry Potter, on the other hand, can be read দ্বারা anyone in any age group, from a 6-year-old to a 90-year-old, and দ্বারা any gender.

I think Harry Potter also stands out more. As a আরো unique story, it does not blend into all the other vampire romances as Twilight does. Harry Potter, as I see it, is quite unique in its genre. Not only this, it is more than one genre, with a hint of romance, and mystery, and horror added to the fantasy- this just aids it in its intrigue. While Twilight, I think, is pure romance.

Harry Potter is also আরো distinguished, with JK Rowling having earned আরো awards and আরো prestigious awards in literacy. This actually does help in people's choosing of a book.
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IKR!! i like buying book when i know অথবা have some kind of shiny medal printed on the front.. lols.. call me cheesy but i like it!
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dalilee said:
Nawl baby!! Twilight is way better than harry potter!!!! Ill admit that I প্রণয় harry potter but aint no way he got twilight beat.
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^mmmmhmm?
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yeah right :P
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I agree with zanhar1.
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vampiressJazz said:
I'll make this short and sweet. Harry Potter unlike Twilight actually had a plot, and well developed characters and ideas that actually make sense unlike ভ্যাম্পায়ার that light up like a বড়দিন বৃক্ষ when they go out into the sun!
Also Twilight is really Cliche.

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Agreed
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If that were the case, Twilight wouldn't be successful at all. You're trying to give reasons why Twilight isn't successful, and you'll be wrong no matter what আপনি say because there's no denying that Twilight IS successful.
cassie-1-2-3 posted বছরখানেক আগে
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I think that Harry Potter has a little আরো success due to the লেখা and the controversy surrounding the books' intentional theme. Whereas Twilight didn't face as much, yet became successful on another level.
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noturcreeper said:
because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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 because harry isnt as much of a wuss as edward
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THIS.
JaseKS posted বছরখানেক আগে
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lmao true
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The sparkle part really ruin the horror and serious atmosphere the লেখক try to create. It's like trying to make people scared but we ended up laughing. (at least in most of the case)
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GoldnSnitch_96 said:
I havent read any of the Twilight বই cause I don't want to be bashed দ্বারা everyone at my school and the fact that I have heard too many bad things, but I watched one of the movies, and my analysis was: It went absolutely no where. There wasn't much action, and as far as romance went, I have been আরো touched দ্বারা episodes of the Simpsons. So I guess cant really bash Twilight too much cause I dont know a great deal about it, but I guess at the end of the day, Harry Potter was আরো appealing. It appealed to me,and I প্রণয় it. I find it dramatic, intense, and simply, well, EPIC. The plot is so rich and it progresses smoothly, and also I think Twilight appeals আরো to those who ...well, saying less sophisticated would be cruel, but then again, the majority of the অনুরাগী I have met only rave on about how hot the guys are. Like really. Thats it? Hot guys? Psh.

But thats probably the সামগ্রিক reason, it mostly appeals to horny girls, to put it bluntly and Harry Potter appeals to EVERYONE. Like seriously, anyone can read it.
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It's cool, but saying stuff like that makes আপনি look immature and আপনি don't want that image.
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@zanhar1, correct, and especially not on a place like this.
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dracofan001 said:
why i think it is: well people can relate better to the characters in harry potter. i mean most people will read stories/ watch চলচ্চিত্র based on how relatable/likeable the characters are. i mean true some people will watch চলচ্চিত্র like twilight and wish they had hot guys like edward and jacob fighting over them, but most people will like to see other people going through their difficult situations and problems. Anyway the point is that "It does not do to dwell on dreams, and forget to live." --Albus Dumbledore. See twilight is not relatable. harry potter is. people like চলচ্চিত্র that are relatable.

my point:

people are most likely to read বই that help them get through things. they like to know (like i ব্যক্ত above) that other people went through their problems and got through them. no person has the problem of ভ্যাম্পায়ার and নেকড়ে-মানুষ fighting over them.
and this DOES have to do with the question... it is why আরো people read/like harry potter and it is আরো succesful.
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Wow, none of that applies to me at all.
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@cassie-1-2-3 i really don't care
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That's fine.
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Bubba38 said:
harry potter is আরো successful than twilight আরো multiple reasons. 1. rowling gave depth to many characters which included flaws and tht made them আরো relatable, she didnt focus just on 1 অথবা 2 people. 2. there was multiple angles to evry storyline...the pros and cons were included and it made ta reader really think wat was gonna happen. 3. it had আরো than 1 subject: there was love, vengence,friendship,fights within friendship and ta feeling of having a family. 4. it realted to আরো people...twilight is mostly for teenage girls where HP is loved my all ages male অথবা female. basically সামগ্রিক HP connects with people on multiple levels and just has a better storyline.
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missceleb86 said:
twilight has no plot all it is bout is the fact that ঘণ্টা an 18 yr old girl falls in প্রণয় with edward who is 108 yr old vamp and who has never fallen in প্রণয় in all his yrs which is pretty stupid and that bella is so helpless all she can do is screan "EDWARD!" when he is getting thrashed দ্বারা the volturi and when he's away she wants to kill herself. i mean like seriously girl get a life. Hp on the other hand had love, adventure, good and bad cool dangerous dementors and death eaters and it had Lord Voldemort who is the most formidable wizard.
And on IMDb which is a well known critics site twilight breaking dawn part 1 had scored 4.8 out 10 and hp 7 part 2 has scored 8.5 out of 10 and Hp also beat ব্যাটম্যান dark knight which is like a very good film. So i think enough is said
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ClaireVoyant said:
wow, so many big answer.
I'll try to answer it from different pov: the fans/fandom

- some of আপনি ব্যক্ত that it's because HP has been around longer. it doesn't always happen that way though.
Most of জনপ্রিয় movies/books, became জনপ্রিয় thanks for the fan. (i.e. দ্বারা the amount of fanfic, doujinshi, fanart, graphic ETC) I've seen people already create a lot of fanart and fanfic for a movie that's just out this বছর (ex; thor, X-men first class) because they are just THAT good.

- if people loved one movie. আপনি can be sure that the fandom will grow. and the amount of fanfic/art/doujinshi will sky rocketing. for this to happen, the অনুরাগী need a movie that not only they can enjoy while they watching it in cinema. but also have a hidden subplot/subtext that they can bring to the fandom as a plot/subplot.

-considering HP has আরো mystery, and always have unexpected surprise every time the new বই came. no wonder if the অনুরাগী have a field দিন palying with the plot. oh, the possibility আপনি can make in জে কে রোলিং বই are almost limitless... and আপনি wonder why people never tired of harry potter?

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well, আপনি might not understand half the thing I ব্যক্ত up there...
but my point is.
Base on the fandom (what I see)

HarryPotter=
-fanfiction; HP have about 500,000 in ff.net alone not to mention other site like LJ, HexFiles,RestrictedSection, dreamwidth, etc
-Doujinshi; GUH! the amount of doujinshi the japanesse fandom made for HP alone... I've seen hundreds of it in one site alone (sadly i have no paypal)
-fanart/graphic ; are আপনি kidding me? just গুগুল Harry potter in DA alone, not to mention tumblr and other site.

Twilight=
-fanfiction; about 180.000 in ff.net, and the one in LJ I heard it was not that active.
-doujinshi ; the japannesse one, i have yet to see. i have only see one graphic novel of twilight but it's official, published in america (if i remember correctly)
-fanart : quite a lot in DA but আপনি have to discount the hate-art...
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twilight story was quite predictable (the princip of vampire vs werewolf has been recycled too many times). it doesn't provide the audience a new set of world that the অনুরাগী can 'explore' like HP.
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wow, maybe a little too long... I'll সম্পাদনা later when the internet connection a little better...
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kk :D
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HPfan236 said:
I think it is because Twilight seems to be aimed আরো at teenage girls অথবা sometimes even mothers while Harry Potter extends to Children, Grown Up's, Teenagers, etc..
In my eyes harry potter also has আরো আরো moral lesson's and sends a আরো positive messages. beside's having the moral lessons HP is also full of action, adventure, suspense, and a little dash of Romance.
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brendaluvbunny said:
becuz harry potter is a timeless beautiful story about conquerin evil and twilight is about a girl who is playin 2 guys and finally piks 1 also 4 harry potter the চলচ্চিত্র were made beautifully with good actors and lots of work put in 2 it while twilight has some good actors and some not so good actors and not a lot of work into it
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Skyraven said:
Harry Potter was আরো successful than Twilight in many ways. First off, it had much আরো excitement and action in it, and many of the good guys die along with the bad. In Twilight, it has a big happy 'all-of-us-survived-and-the-bad-people-are-dead' ending. People like action and thrills, they don't want to sit there and read about Edward's looks for fifty pages অথবা about how miserable Bella is without him.

And speaking of Edward and Bella, the characters in Harry Potter were all realistic. They had their flaws, their strengths, none of them were absolutely perfect and loved দ্বারা everyone. Take Hermione for example. She can be annoying, অথবা a know-it-all, but without her, Harry and Ron would be doomed. On the contrary, Bella is perfect, beautiful, and loved দ্বারা everyone. The মিনিট she steps into her school, all of the guys want to তারিখ her. She's absolutely depressing, flawless, and cannot live without Edward দ্বারা her side. Unlike Hermione, who's brave, independent, and willing to fight, Bella needs her guy for everything and is pretty much useless as a human. She also thinks that Edward stalking her and watching her sleep is romantic, which is a terrible example for young girls. It might trick them into believing that they cannot live without a man, that stalking is okay. It is NEVER okay!

The Harry Potter plot, even though it involves wizards and magic, is very original in the events, while Twilight is just another vampire প্রণয় story. In HP, there's always danger, trials, and inner troubles the characters have to face. In Twilight, there's about five pages of action and then everything's solved. That's it.

These are HUGE reasons contributing to why Harry Potter is so much আরো successful-it has a deep, thought-out storyline that every Harry Potter অনুরাগী can lose themselves in, realistic characters that we প্রণয় and relate to, plenty of excitement and action that leaves us wondering what happens next. When our পছন্দ characters die, we seem to never stop grieving for the loss even if it is fiction. Even when the Deathly Hallows ended and we set the book down, it seems to never really end.

That's why Harry Potter is আরো successful-it has everything a real literature lover wants. Action, adventure, a good plot, developed characters, deaths on both sides, and real romance. People do not fall in প্রণয় দ্বারা looking at each other. All of the romance in Harry Potter was spread over the years; the two started as friends, and it grew into something stronger, deeper. While Twilight may have 'hot' guys, romance and drama, all that, it only really appeals to teenage girls, while anyone can read and enjoy Harry Potter. Nobody likes an unoriginal plot, অথবা weak characters, no action....that's why Harry Potter was always a step ahead of Twilight in success.
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All the "bad people" did not die in Twilight.
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i agree.. hermione is a much better role model. she choice her a path to fight good and evil instead of following ron.. বই DO.. বই BEING A PART OF MASS MEDIA DO! I DID AND ENTIRE প্রতিবেদন ON THIS AND STILL AM.. IT DOES MAKE AN IMPRESSION!!
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It makes an impression, but it doesn't force people to do everything people read about.
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keep_smiling said:
I think its the story matter! Harry Potter is about friendship, courage and sacrifice. Not some প্রণয় triangle.J K rowling is simply marvellous! Nuf said!
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ArcticWolf said:
Harry Potter interests a greater range of people, so logically আরো people read the বই and watch the movies. That's pretty much it. As others have said, I also think Harry Potter has a better plot and characters, but I really don't think that has much to do with the popularity. I think it all just comes down to basic interests.
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lollypop94 said:
- hp is unisex
- there are আরো hp বই and চলচ্চিত্র so আরো sales
- hp been going longer so multi-generational
- hp is less controversial
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TsubasaPotter said:
Characters in Harry Potter have their stories. I don't see that in Twilight, except Jacob, Bella, Edward. Just them? Pretty boring actually, i think Meyer should watching Korean Drama for it, if she want to make a good romance story, hehe
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annabell9122 said:
duh a harry potter is better

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