Truth of the matter is that Joe can be an ass. I believe that Mike has forgiven him- Joe sounds like a sh*tty dad- we all know it. If Mike can forgive him, I can too. I personally think we are spending too much time talking about Joe. I rather talk about Mike- we know Mike's trauma, I think that's what made him so sensitive to others. Mike is strong- he has championed many things including JOE. Mike is the star, I want to focus on him. Joe is an ass, let's সরানো on!!!