threw curveballs at two frequently tested romances, by revealing that Zelena (as “Marian”) conceived Robin’s baby, while Rumple wore his (er,
) heart on his sleeve during a very tender moment.
Elsewhere, Emma reunited with childhood pal Lily, who it turns out is wholly aware of her fantastical lineage, and thus has a bone to pick with the Charmings.
co-creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis previewed for TVLine this Sunday’s penultimate Season 4 episode (ABC, 8/7c), which also marks the return of Barbara Hershey as Cora.
TVLINE | Are we going to get more reaction from Robin Hood, to Zelena’s masquerade and pregnancy? I was surprised that he wasn’t more affronted by what was foisted upon him, and instead was all, “I
ADAM HOROWITZ | He didn’t seem affronted? I guess we cut out pretty fast….
EDDY KITSIS | We are going to get into his reaction and give it a proper “What just happened?!” scene in this week’s episode.
HOROWITZ | There’s a pretty extensive scene at the beginning, where we get his reaction.
KITSIS | He and Regina have a pretty lengthy talk about it.
TVLINE | In an ideal world, do you commit a whole episode to a drawn-out court trial about the custody ramifications for a baby conceived in such a way?
TVLINE | What role will this week’s Cora/Regina flashbacks play?
KITSIS | Cora is back to help Regina figure out who her own worst enemy is.
TVLINE | I see the Sheriff of Nottingham among the guest stars roster. Does Robin appear in the flashbacks as well?
KITSIS | We will definitely be seeing the world of Nottingham….
HOROWITZ | Some Sherwood Forest action is on its way.
tempered down Lily’s bloodthirst, or will meeting her mother, Maleficent, charge Lily back up?
KITSIS | Lily is going to get charged back up a bit. We’re going to get a little more insight into her and how she feels about herself.
TVLINE | So even though Emma spared her life, she’s still gunning for the Charmings?
HOROWITZ | Lily has spent many years dealing with the anger of what Snow and Charming did to her, so it’s going to take her a bit to either get over it or embrace [vengeance].
KITSIS | Just because she and Emma had a nice scene on the highway doesn’t mean that it’s over.
TVLINE | One might think that having spared Lily, Emma has stepped off of the dark path she was on. Or is that not the case?
KITSIS | Emma is definitely tested on this road of darkness, and where she ends up is going to be up in the air for the next three episodes. But she has a strong heart, so it’s going to take more than just a woman holding a gun to her kid’s head to turn her.
TVLINE | Is there anything left to agitate Emma over these next three hours…?
KITSIS | There’s always stuff to agitate Emma.
TVLINE | What is Isaac’s agenda anymore? If you awarded him free reign, what would he do right now?
KITSIS | We are going to answer that question, visually, in the finale (airing May 10).
KITSIS | How he feels about being the Author and what kind of Author he’d like to be gets answered in the first act of the finale.
of the look Belle gave us as Rumple walked away after restoring her heart?
KITSIS | That look said to me she isn’t over him. But that doesn’t mean she’s ready to forgive him, either. That’s the thing about that man and why he told us he’s a difficult man to love. Because just when we’re ready to hate him, he does something completely selfless like get your heart back and then not ask for anything in return —
HOROWITZ | I’ll just say that I loved that moment that you pointed out. Emilie [De Ravin] was just wonderful the way she played that. Without any dialogue, what she said about how she feels I thought was beautiful.
romantic, I thought. How beyond restoring her heart, Rumple entrusted it to Will, acknowledging his own unworthiness.
HOROWITZ | There has been a nobility in all the crazy, horrible things he has done, and that’s been one of the contradictions at the heart of Rumple from the beginning, that we love exploring. Belle is completely aware of that and tuned into it, and that’s what you saw in that scene — she could see that the “difficult to love” man who has done terrible things is also an honorable, beautiful man as well. She’s torn up by that as much as he’s torn up himself.
TVLINE | Can you promise in these final three hours any similarly grandly romantic scenes between any characters?
KITSIS | I would say that we probably have at least two more. And a third one is romantic in its own way.
NEXT WEEK: Horowitz and Kitsis teases the two-hour finale and its (hopefully still-)secret scene, and answer perhaps the most burning question of all.
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Thanks for the Rumple and Belle question. I thought that scene was really lovely as well. Hoping for more in the next few episodes!
That was a beautiful scene and I can’t wait until they reunite! I doubt the whole Rumple is planning to make Emma dark. There is probably another plan in the works. Thanks for sharing this with us on Tumblr! I need all the positive interviews on Rumbelle than I can get! To Phil and Val, Belle is strong and she has always been strong and she is not being manipulated by Rumple or did you actually read and understand the article? he loves her, she loves him, Will loves Anastasia and the rest of you bitter souls will have to deal!
You do realize he didn’t mean any of it and is just lying to and manipulating her again, right?
You realize that you’re wrong, don’t you?
I agree. I mean maybe he was being selfless. But this is Rumple we’re talking about. If you look at the other side, he clearly has something to gain by returning her heart. His love for Belle is the old red/good part of his blackened heart and without her it would completely blacken. I hope Belle doesn’t forgive him (at least for a while). Honestly, it doesn’t really feel at all like he’s been punished for what he’s done. I liked seeing Belle be strong for once and not the boring, whiny character she often is during the first three seasons. Exiling Rumple really didn’t do anything to him because he just weaseled his way back and wreaked havoc on the town and is trying to hurt Emma. He shouldn’t be with Belle right now I think. The show should allow Belle to grow and toughen up and make Rumple suffer a bit for what he’s still doing.
Yes someone who has been caged, assaulted, molested and controlled after sacrificing his life to save everyone really should suffer some more. Clearly he hasn’t been through enough and his actions have nothing to do with his time being Zelena’s “doll.”
Meh, I saw that as sort of karma coming back to bite him in the ass for all the terrible things he’s done for hundreds of years. I enjoyed Zelena messing with him and giving him a tast of his own medicine. Sure I’ve felt sympathy for Rumple once in a while, but he gets no sympathy from me at the moment especially this season after all the crap he’s been pulling with trying to kill both Hook and Emma and making Emma evil and playing a role in all the chaos of 4B. So please spare me the whole “he’s being an awful person because he was controlled by Zelena”. As if he hasn’t done that to X amount of people taking away their freedom or trapping them into his deals and of course killing them. Before Belle fell in love him, he basically imprisoned her, forced her away from her family and made her his servant. What Zelena did to him was karma plain and simple. He is doing what he is doing now because he is obsessed and consumed with power. He did a selfless thing and sacrificed himself for his son and basically after Neal died he just returned to being everything his son hated. You can blame it on grief and lack of self-control or you can acknowledge that he has just become an extremely terrible person from so much darkness and pain and suffering he’s inflicted on others as evidenced by his blakened heart and that he is maybe too far gone from becoming a decent person without some serious, genuine effort.
Wow. So, you for torture then if you had no problem with Zelena keeping Rumple in a cage for a whole year. No change of clothes, force feeding him(deleted scene on dvd), forcibly shaving him without permission. I bet if it was Hook you would be screaming bloody murder.
You do realize that the creators of the show have stated in this interview that he was being sincere and selfless when he gave Belle back her heart? Given that he is a fictional character and they created/write the show, their view trumps yours.
Just because they state something, it doesn’t often come across that way. They can state anything the want, but what matters is what is portrayed on screen and the writing. As evidenced by that scene and the character of Rumple in general this season, that scene is clearly being interpreted differently by many people.
Considering Will is the knave of hearts he probably knows how to return a heart.
How do you delete comments on this website? I meant to say the one about Will but not the one apologizing.
I’m sorry can someone tell me how to delete comments here?
Thank you for saying that Jennifer. I feel the same way. Rumple loves Belle beyond words. He has more power then anyone in Storybrook. He could make Belle love him if he wanted to. But he want’s her love freely and even more he want’s her happy. I really want Rumbelle back!!!!
How could he make her love him? Isn’t that going against one of the biggest rules of magic along with bringing back the dead? Sure, he was finally able to bottle true love before, but I can’t remember if he has any left.
It would be nice if Rumple wasn’t actually planning to try to make Emma dark. I don’t know if the writers will go there, though. As it is, making Emma dark is a nonsensical plan. It doesn’t really do anything to help him and will only make Belle angry at him. A redemption arc for him, would be if he really wanted to reunite a parent with her child (Mal and Lily) because of his past experience with Neal. Fixing Lily’s curse would also have to be involved. Maybe Emma turning “sort-of-dark”, temporarily, would negate/destroy the curse on Lily?
I was a little confused about the Belle/Rumple thing because given how irritated Belle was at him before and that Regina appeared to ask, she acted like she didn’t know what was happening.
I was confused by that as well. Regina asked Belle to help her in the episode about Cruella, so why did she act like ‘what? Regina took my heart?!’ That was not only confusing but annoying. Almost as though the writers had forgotten that happened. Because unless she knocked Belle out before taking, most everyone knows when their heart has been taken…so yeah, I didn’t get that either.
Regina said to Belle after controlling her that she was to forget everything.
Its beyond a joke now. All the crap he has done and she still takes him back would make me lose respect for her. He is still planning to do evil thing and screw over Emma etc
Unless, his plan is to break Lily’s curse by turning Emma temporarily dark. Because, turning Emma dark, doesn’t really personally help him, himself. It would really only benefit Lily. After all, she was the one who was cursed with Emma’s dark side. If Emma turned dark, you would think that maybe, just maybe, Emma’s dark side would leave Lily’s body. After the curse is broken, then Rumple could tell Emma about it. Thus, making Emma’s dark turn temporary.
The Rumple/Belle/Will was pure manipulation from start to finish, there was zero nobility to Rumple’s action. He played her, and Will, by giving them a blessing, and calling himself unworthy. It was basically a humblebrag designed to make her yearn and it worked. Let’s not call it by anything other than what it was – manipulation. Certainly not romantic.
Hammer. Nail. Head. That’s how i took it too.
Note to self, many people will outright ignore what the actual creators of a show say. Which makes it extremely important to make something crystal clear when writing stories.
Boy he just can’t win with you people. He could sacrifice himself to save everyone and that would still not be enough (oh wait…he did that already…). Maybe just maybe he wanted to let her know why he had been doing what he’d been doing, so that she had some understanding, and so he could walk away knowing he was honest with her. That she deserved that much from him. “If you love someone, let them go” and all that. He let her go. Like he has countless times before.
I’m also not sure that a non-magical person could put a heart back. So far I think we’ve only seen people with magic remove and put them back. Cora, Regina, Rumple, Emma, Hook when his hook was enchanted by Regina to take a heart. I don’t remember one non-magical person ever returning a heart to someone so perhaps Rumple HAD to be the one to do it (as Regina sure as heck wasn’t going to).
some people will always hate, no matter what he will do or has done. after everything he went thrugh last season i bet everyone would go crazy
Mulan had to return Aurora’s heart in season two. As far as we know, neither of them is magical.
Considering Will is the knave of hearts he probably knows how to return a heart
Don’t worry, Crysania4, the creators of the show have made it clear in this interview that Rumple was sincere in that scene. Unfortunately, many people will misunderstand the intention of the writers. It makes no sense whatsoever, why they do that…. since fictional characters behave however a writer wants them to behave.
Thank you. That’s pretty much how I saw it. I didn’t really see it as selfless at all (maybe if I rewatch it who knows). He hasn’t been enlightened from his exile by Belle. He hasn’t seen it as a way to change and become a better person. He hasn’t suffered or been punished for what he’s been doing. He weaseled his way back into town and wreaked havoc.
With everything going on at this point in time, I cannot believe “romance” is even being discussed. UGH! Baby mama drama is lame at best. It’s been done to death on television since forever. The fact that you saddled this show’s most dynamic character with this ham-fisted “love story” boggles my mind. It is uninteresting and makes her uninteresting and THAT is a crime.
I’m actually excited to see what happens with Lily and I really want Emma to go dark. Emma has been lost in the wind for a while and this path to darkness makes her interesting again and Jen is bringing her A Game. I can’t wait to see what happens to the Charmings as their choice was just hideous.
At this point, Henry is the smartest one of the lot. I’m hoping he has much to do with the final 3 hours of this season.
I’m thinking that dragon in the promo is Lily. Maybe she can turn into one like her mom because that dragon looked way different than Mal’s dragon and much better CGI, but it was only the promo so just have to wait and see if the CGI for this dragon is better.
Isn’t it funny, what they viewed as romantic between Belle and Rumple, (with the heart) i viewed as a new level of manipulative. Lol. I don’t really want them back together.
Yeah I think I’d lose a lot of respect for Belle if she took him back right away. She was so brave and strong when she exiled him and she finally toughened up a bit and became a little bit more interesting of a character rather than the boring, whiny character during the previous seasons who basically just let everything Rumple did go and constantly forgave him. I don’t think they should ruin her progress and development just to appease the Rumbelle fans.
Given that he sacrificed his life, last season, partly to save Belle, I find it shocking that people can’t see that his love for Belle is being written as sincere.
Wow. Just wow. I realize that you’re not a journalist Matt, but that was a Sidney Glass level interview. You like the show, okay. There is no shame in that. But you’re sounding a lot like an OUaT a mouthpiece when you should be able to ask questions that are just a shade tougher. For starters, the view that what Zelena did last week was rape. I’m not even talking about what’s right or wrong. I’m just saying that you should be able to ask about something that got a majority of fans in an uproar. Even in a puff piece like this it shouldn’t be so hard to have a little integrity
Bought and paid for media is how this show has gotten away with chronic sexism, misogyny and casual rape for 3 years while calling it feminist with strong female leads.
Yeah, Gloria Steinem scoffs at these “strong” females.
Regina taking Graham’s heart and using him as a sex slave?
I honest to gods don’t believe these yidiots even wrote one sentence of the first season.
This show is down right gross on top of being bad now. Tuck to all of this and I’ll pass.
That last sentence completely threw me off! Got a feeling that finale will break me apart, not like the last one that made be happy and all fuzzy.
I hope we get to see more of them in that last 3 episodes left!
The morality on this show is so messed up. So NOT murdering someone is considered selfless these days???? What in the ever-loving heck? Selfless would have been letting Will return it without Belle knowing Rumple had anything to do with it. Rumple returned it because Regina was blackmailing him and he wanted to be free of that. That scene was nothing but yet more creepy manipulation of Belle by Rumple. That relationship is completely unhealthy.
I can’t put up with how Rumple and Regina’s myriad of crimes are continuously whitewashed.
But I bet you have no problem with Hook blackmailing Rumple to get his hand back while angry Regina did it to prevent Rumple from murdering someone.
And remember everyone finding out Hook hadnt changed at all actually?
An issue though is the fact that he even had Hook’s hand in the first place. The man is holding people’s body parts hostage! If you think about it, almost every single thing in his damn shop doesn’t even belong to him.
We’ve seen both Hook’s heat and Rumple’s heart at this point. Tell me, whose was darker? I think even Regina had less darkness in her heart than Rumple.
Which one is cursed again? Hook? Nope. Regina? Hmmm…nope. Rumple? Oh right. CURSED. Couldn’t have anything to do with basically living with a demon inside him.
Rumple is excused for every little thing because of his curse. Guess what? He’s power hungry and that is not because of his cure. It drives most of his choices. He’s also learned over centuries to be a master manipulator. He has free will. You make it sound as if he’s being controlled like a robot.
Unlike Rumple who has a dark curse in him, Hook and Regina’s villainy is all them.
But why is Rumple’s heart darker than Regina’s? It really doesn’t make much sense. Unless, the curse is part of the reason. Rumple sacrificed himself last season to save people. Regina hasn’t done that. Also, Regina killed her own father so that she could get revenge on Snow for what Cora did. Regina’s heart should be as dark as Rumple’s, if not darker.
Hook blackmailed Rumple to help Elsa and also to get his hand back. It wasn’t out of malice. But Rumple made it that way when he threatened to hurt Emma the way he did Milah whilst Hook said he will basically tell Belle the truth which will hurt her heart. And from then on Rumple devious as he is took his heart. And was planning to let Emma be sacked up and probably killed in the damn hat. And is still after Emma in screwing her over. So no Rumple is being pure evil and selfish.
Blackmailing Rumple to get HIS hand back. HIS. OWN. HAND! What an evil person to want to get his own hand back from the guy who cut it off and has had it in a jar as a trophy for hundreds of years. Which, BTW, he cut off after he murdered his estranged wife for daring to leave him. But, sure, blackmail to get back one’s own body part is the most evil thing out of all that.
When did everyone find out Hook hadn’t actually changed at all? I don’t remember that ever happening in the TV show that actually aired.
Hook blackmailed Rumple to get HIS OWN hand back that was WRONGLY chopped off, that Rumple should have given him back anyways (instead of keeping it as a trophy like a serial killer would). Rumple has manipulated every single character on the show over the years, contributing or directly causing a lot of the horrible things that have happened to them. He deserved to get blackmailed. And all he did was threaten to kill Hook and Emma in response. He wasn’t a victim.
Thank you so much for the Rumbelle scoops! That scene was beautiful.
I’m still no fan of the Zelena baby story at all. It’s terribly “Days of Our Lives” and all of the characters involved deserve better than that. I also really wish the writers would address the fact that what Zelena did to Robin Hood is hugely problematic regardless of whether or not she’s gotten herself pregnant that way. I feel like the baby is now being focused on as this huge obstacle for the star-crossed soulmates Regina and Robin, who barely got a break from drama, drama, drama at all this season, while the way this pregnancy came about is brushed aside. Maybe they’ll surprise me, but past encounters with non consensuality on OUAT don’t give me hope.
I’m one of those who also didn’t consider the Rumple and Belle scene romantic. But I’m also not invested in Will and Belle either. I really wish they would let Belle stay single. I’m not going to root for her and Rumple to get back together, too much has happened, but rushing her into rebound relationship that they started in medias res isn’t my cup of tea either.
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I’m so disappointed with the direction of Rumple/Belle. I used to be a huge Rumbelle shipper, but this season has completely turned me off to them. Even though I knew Belle wasn’t over Rumple, which I get…I can’t feel like I can ever respect the character if (let’s be real, when) she goes back to him. Forgiveness is one thing, but the relationship is beyond unhealthy.
Are we ever going to find out why Wil left Wonderland and Ana ? Or is this all happening beforehand ? It’s beyond frustrating st this point..
I’m just gonna leave this here: I’m really happy for the Rumbelle scoop. It’s pretty clear that ScarletBeauty isn’t even a ship and that Belle loves Rumple. And NO, dear captain swan shippers, Rumple wasn’t manipulating her. Can you at least read and understand what the writers say!? He loves her. He’s a man who lost everything and she’s the only person he truly love. He just wanted to apologize and tell her how much he loves her, since she thinks that he doesn’t care about her and he only loves power. He just returned the heart to his WIFE and tell her to be happy with Will. But OF COURSE NOT, HE’S MANIPULATING. The truth is you don’t understand ANYTHING about this show. Killian can threaten people, make rape jokes and that’s OK.
Rumple can’t even save his wife or carry her to bed and “HE’S ABUSIVE!!11!”. You are so blind.
And learn the true meaning of “abusive relationship”. Rumple never abused of Belle. He lied, of course, he’s what he is, but he’s not an abusive man. So shut up.
He forced her to live in his castle as his personal maid and kept her locked in a cell during that time, and you don’t see that as abusive? Frankly, I’ve always thought their relationship reeked of codependency and Stockholm Syndrome. I’ve also always thought that the REAL reason their first kiss didn’t break his curse is because it’s not really ‘true love.’
Rumple didn’t force Belle to become his maid; she chose to go with him as part of a deal (“No one decides my fate but me.”). It’s the Beauty and the Beast story. Their first kiss started to break his curse (you see Rumple start to transform on camera) until he realized what was happening and stopped it, so it was in fact True Love’s Kiss.
So well said. I read these comments and shake my head and just laugh. It is a great show I love it and I love rumple all of his bad deeds you want to call it he has always, yes had a noble reason..and which makes you fall in love with the character and him with Belle. I can’t wait to see the next two episodes so excited. .and
What was Rumple’s noble reason for murdering his mute maid? What was his noble reason for murdering Milah? What was his noble reason for trying to suck Emma into the hat? To name only three of his many crimes….
LOL really? All of his bad deeds were for noble reasons? We clearly haven’t been watching the same show.
Sorry, no. Rumple has done many things out of pure selfishness and desire for power, even murdered people just for the fun of it or because he was angry. You’re not seeing the character clearly. A & E see him as a villain. A villain that loves Belle as much as someone like him can love a person, but still a villain.
The scene between Belle and Rumple was extremely beautiful. He’s always loved her with all his heart and this scene made that clear. This scene may have reminded her that he’s a man struggling under a dark curse unlike the other villains who are acting on their own. They’ve been playing out the whole Beauty and the Beast storyline this season. We all can pretty much guess where they’re heading. Thanks for asking these questions.
Hmmm…. maybe his goal really is to break Lily’s curse. Because if there is a way to do it, turning Emma dark, even if temporarily, would probably have to be involved. Think about it. After the spell, one child (Emma) was supposed to be purely (or at least mostly) good, while the other one (Lily) absorbed all of Emma’s potential for evil. If Emma turns dark, even for a brief time, the curse would have to break. Lily’s like him, in some ways. And the situation with Mal and Lily would have reminded him of his quest to find Neal. He really became the “Dark One” in order to protect Neal. Only to have things go wrong and to lose Neal, for decades, because of it. So, there are some parallels between his curse and hers. They both repeatedly screw up when they have what they want most in the world… love. Maybe Rumple is intelligent enough to realize that in order to attempt to fix what is wrong with his heart, he has to do good things. Like giving Mal and Lily a happy ending by breaking the curse. Of course, he couldn’t tell Emma that in order to break the curse, she would have to turn temporarily dark. It would need to be genuine.
I think your theory gives him way too much credit. How would it be a “good thing” to push Emma into a situation where she ended up making the hasty decision of killing Cruella? (Regardless of Cruella being a psychopath). Yes, SHE made that decision, but to deny his role in it would be foolish. That isn’t a “good” act. I fail to see how that would help him fix his heart. While who knows what secrets or explanations will be brought up in these final episodes, I hardly think his actions would be considered selfless. Even in your theory of him helping Mal and Lily reunite and get their happy ending. To be frank, Rumple would probably care less about Mal’s happiness. He didn’t revive her to give her her happy ending. This is Rumple we’re talking about. He revived her because he needs to use her as part of his plan to get his own happy ending. And let’s not forget he tried to kill Emma just a few months ago.
Rumple showed Mal what happened to Lily, pretty quickly. He did so with very little prodding. Also, turning Emma dark just doesn’t benefit Rumple in any way, shape, or form. It really only benefits Lily. Also, Emma is sort-of friends now with Regina… even after everything Regina has done, including the fact that Regina was the reason why Emma grew up without her parents. Gold didn’t make Emma and Cruella do what they did. They both chose to do what they did. He just knew that they would behave that way. Also, even if Rumple is trying to a good deed, by breaking Lily’s curse, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he would be perfectly noble (good) in his attempt. He is the “Dark One”, after all. Cruella might even still be alive, possibly. Her little funeral could have been for show, for Emma’s benefit. Regardless, if my theory/speculation ends up being correct, Emma should still ream out Gold for the situation with Cruella. I would have no problem with that. Regina should still be held accountable for the things that she did, as well.
Rumple showed Mal what happened to Lily to get her to cooperate because he needed her. He needed to give her something or else she would cause him more troubles. Also, we have yet to see how Emma turning dark affects Rumple. He clearly has something up his sleeve and there’s a reason he wants her to turn dark that hasn’t been made fully clear yet. Severing Lily and Emma’s fates and breaking Lily’s curse may end up being a consequence of Rumple’s plan but to be honest I doubt it would have been his goal. We’ll have to see. I’m personally 90% convinced that Rumple’s plan is for his own benefit and not selfless at all and that’s based on past experience. Who knows if he’ll prove us wrong, but even if he does, that doesn’t mean he’s suddenly good or forgiven or that Belle should forgive him. “Gold didn’t make Emma and Cruella do what they did.” So wait, are you denying that Rumple had any hand in that? He brought Cruella to town. He has a way of knowing things and like you mentioned, instincts about how things will happen and how people will behave. So, he most defintiely played a role in the problems currently happening. And while he may not be perfectly noble if you’re theory turns out correct, if the goal is to prevent his heart from further damage or to try and mend it, I fail to see how what he’s been doing accomplishes that because none of his actions have been “good”. You can interpret his returning Belle’s heart as being good, but I and several others as it appears didn’t really see it that way (seeing it as more manipulative and/or self-serving). I agree Regina has a LONG way to go on her path for redemption. The difference between her and Rumple is that for quite some time she’s appeared to really be trying (far from perfect attempt, but still trying). Anyway, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. As bad as the writing can be sometimes on the show, I still love and enjoy it and the summer hiatus is gonna suck!
Zelena has been known to be a lying liar who….well,… lies. So why should we even believe her when she says that she is pregnant? And pregnant by Robin?#OUAT
Honestly. I am waiting patiently for the last 3 episodes of OUaT. The most interesting thing for me it that… Author can resurrect Graham/Huntsman and Baelfire/Neal?
No thanks. Graham was written to be dead. Neal was always going to die. Useless.
I don’t suppose that when they say Regina and Robin discuss things, they’ll acknowledge that Zelena raped Robin? I mean, they clearly won’t since they never addressed Regina’s rape of Graham or Leopold’s rape of Regina. But it would be nice if they acknowledged that Robin is not the one to blame in this situation and that everything can be put down to Zelena’s manipulation and deception.
As much as I want Zelena to be lying about the pregnancy, if she’s not, I hope they don’t kill her or the baby. They made this mess so they should be forced to let it play out and have all the characters deal with it, rather than killing Zelena and the baby off.
The show is kind of draggin. We LOVE this show. But this season I hope is the build up to next…..and now we WANT Regina and Robin together….in storybook…..helping to fight other villains that come. That love affair seems sweet. Lets get on with it. Maybe a baby in THAT relationship? Is Bay coming back? Where’s the savior’s “better half” or is she betrothed? If so, to whom and where is he? Maybe a baby for her and Killian? Come on….lets do this!!
Regina is desperate for love which I understand but I think she can do way better than Robin. I just don’t really understand him or their relationship. First him and Regina dating, his wife return then he broke up with Regina because of his code. One day slept with Regina because that day was not day to following his code. Left storybook with his wife. Didn’t waste no time to try fall in love with his wife over again. Find out that his wife is dead and its Regina half sister who her place and also got her pregnant. To me this really doesn’t sound like true love if so he would had chosen Regina first. Yes it will be hard but for the best. But they might work it out
Seriously, I saw the whole Zelena-pregancy thing coming the very second they revealed Marion was really Zelena in disguise. It was such an obvious, and rather pathetic, new way to cause Outlaw Queen drama. And you could tell, three weeks ago in the Robin-centric episode when Zelena was on the phone with Regina that she had a babybump, and if that wasn’t enough, her wording gave it away too; it really wasn’t a surprise at all.
And I find it rediculous Adam acted as if he was surprised people thought Robin didn’t seem as mortified as he should have been at the reveal. Did he not see the same scene we did?
I’m pretty much over the whole Dark Emma arc. There’s been a few things about this half of the season that I’ve liked but I’m to the point now that I’m actually starting to miss the Frozen arc.
I just started watching the show because of lady who plays Pam from true blood that play maleficent. I ship everyone on the show. But robin and Regina will have too much unnecessary drama. Do you think robin and Regina work it out. I’m not hopeful because in my opinion it seems like Regina is second choice.
I’m getting so pissed about the Will/Belle stuff. I want to know what happened to Anastasia! A&E said that we would get answers this season.
Are we going to discuss the magical explosion of the headlights and the thunder / lightning when Emma and Lily was fighting… right after Lily said “and how are you gonna do that without your magic, Saviour?”
Can Emma use magic outside of Strorybrooke? Why was that scene put there?
Could that have been subtle foreshadowing?
Hi! Good evening; I had this question in mind. In which fairy take the urn appears? The one that Elsa came out ant the Snow Queen too… Thats my questiob cause I keep looking and searching and I dont find a thibg about it. Please help me.
I loved the Rumple/Belle scene, too. Rumple owned up to his mistakes with no excuses and wished Belle happiness away from him–THAT is why it was selfless. Thanks, Matt, for asking about that scene and their relationship–looking forward to their scenes in these last episodes of the season!
I don’t understand what happened to this show? My husband and I both used to be big fans, but I have to insist Once Upon a Time on Sundays more and more often now because this season has been disappointing to us both. First an invasion of Disney characters in 4.1 that pushed some of our beloved characters aside. Now this off-putting Wicked Witch story in 4.2.
The Regina & Robin Hood couple is one of our favorites, but I agree with the person above that said they can never have a calm moment anymore.The writers bring back Robin Hood’s dead wife in the finale for the third season and then neither Regina & Robin Hood nor Robin Hood & his former wife are seen much at all in 4.1 so we barely know what is happening at all. Now they want us to believe it was Regina’s insane sister all along? And she slept with him under dubious circumstances to get pregnant? Who writes something like that? It’s not the Once Upon a Time I knew.
The story about Emma’s darkness is confusing to me. She did nothing wrong! She killed Cruella de Vil to save Henry. Now she runs around with pale makeup and bloodshot eyes and is angry all the time because she is slowly turning dark? Why? I will continue to make the hubby watch this show on Sundays until the finale in two weeks, but after that we will have to decide if we come back in fall for a new season. Right now I am not optimistic.
Yeah, I’m usually all wait and see, let the writers finish but the Wicked Witch pregnant with her sister’s boyfriend’s baby coz she morphed herself into his dead wife from FTL is a bad idea all around, sorry.
I have a feeling that Regina is really Gold because after being nice to Emma and practically saving Lily…there is no way Regina would do something bad that fast.
I can. She stole Belle’s heart. What makes you think she wouldn’t hurt Lily?
Mo questions about Killian and Emma at all? Really? Those two have such a beautiful relationship. I would have loved to hear Adam and Eddy talk about what role Killian will play in Emma’s fight against the darkness moving forward. And if we’ll ever learn more about his parents and him in the upcoming season.
And in episode called “Mother” I would have loved for someone (reporters) to ask about Emma and Snow and whether they’ll have a proper talk about how they feel and everything that’s happened.
Why is so much focus always on Regina? To me Emma is the real protagonist of the show. Too bad very few others seem to feel that way :(
I hate Rumple with Belle. The age difference is visually ridiculous and I think they have zero chemistry.
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