ডিজনি জগতের রাজকন্যা Most Feminist DP Movie Countdown! দিন 5: Pick the LEAST Feminist! (Elimination based on comments)

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স্প্লিপিং বিউটি
   38%
The Little Memaid
   27%
ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড
   27%
বিউটি অ্যান্ড দ্যা বিস্ট
   4%
মুলান
   4%
Pocahontas
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Jessikaroo picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
10. Cinderella
9. Aladdin
8. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
7. Princess and the Frog
6. ?

Please try to remove you bias and give good reasons why you choose said movie!

I understand that Flynn and Rapunzel have a pretty good relationship, but as for the rest of the movie... I've already talked about the lack of female representation, the problems with Gothel, and such. I'm open to listen to reasons why an other movie should leave though.
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kirihadaka picked স্প্লিপিং বিউটি:
Erm...does this mean feminist or sexist?
Feminist is supporting feminine qualities...Like in support of women in the same aspect that Marxism
On the other hand sexist could be prejudiced to men or women.

So are we voting on most sexist? X3 Because I voted on that aspect. As much as a love
Sleeping Beauty (my favorite princess) it was most sexist compared to the others, in my mind.

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Jessikaroo picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
fem·i·nism
/ˈfeməˌnizəm/
Noun
The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.


So yes, I am talking about feminism.
Besides, boiling feminism down to nothing more than supporting feminine qualities is wrong. If I were a non-feminine woman, does that mean I can not be a feminist?
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princesslullaby picked The Little Memaid:
Sexism cannot be projected onto men. Sexism is based on a system of power, and men are in power.
Anyway... I'm not sure yet.
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Jessikaroo picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
I'm considering changing my vote to Sleeping Beauty or Mulan, but as of right now I'm still pretty confident about my reasons.
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kirihadaka picked স্প্লিপিং বিউটি:
Ah, okey doke. Makes sense. ^^ Thanks~

Nah, I think the reasoning you explained makes a lot of sense, really. Made me think about the take
on Tangled more, really.

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Oh, and I didn't really explain my reasoning on the Sleeping Beauty choice! Well, considering the time this movie was created and also the time it was supposed to take place in, it actually was a bit out-of-the-box. You got some teenager, running around barefoot, in a forest, dancing with animals and a random hottie she just met.

Still, the whole thing about how the gifts the fairies gave her still kind of gets to me. It was a really sweet moment, but out of all the things they could of blessed her with, it was beauty and a nice voice. I don't know about you guys, but I think her mom was awfully pretty. I'm sure she would have been fine without their help on that issue.

Then it kind of makes me sad to think Phillip only was able to find her through that singing gift. Something kind of artificial, right? Then he is ready to marry her that night because she was pretty and danced around with him in the woods?

Again, Sleeping Beauty is my favorite princess and one of my top favorite movies, so nothing I say is out of spite, but that's just my
reasoning on the matter.

Looking forward to seeing what everyone else votes on. Great topic. ^^
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rhythmicmagic picked The Little Memaid:
In Tangled, Rapunzel and Flynn work together, Rapunzel wielded power over Flynn, planned her own escape, and the king was more emotional than the queen which is definitely breaking gender stereotypes. I find Ariel the more feminist character, but Tangled the more feminist movie. Ariel is manipulated into her decision, no gender stereotypes are definitively broken, and the only female character who is ever in power over a male is evil. Not to say women always need to be in power, but there is no example of female power in The Little Mermaid- unless that power is from an evil character. There's a double-edged sword using a female villain, because they are basically by definition powerful, but at the same time, their power is evil. Anyway, random rant notwithstanding, I find The Little Mermaid the least feminist left.
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JNTA1234 picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
or TLM
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BelleAnastasia picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
I can't believe it's not gone yet.
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Swanpride picked The Little Memaid:
Again: We are talking about the movies, not the princesses. And Slepping beauty has a mostly female cast, and the females make all the important decisions. Which makes the movie as the whole very feminist.
Tangled, yes, has a lack of female representation, but that's true for ALL the other DP-movies left, too (with the exception of Sleeping Beauty, naturally). It makes up for being the only DP movie, in which it is implied that the Princess eventually becomes the regent, the only one, in which the romance is entirely based on interest in each others characters, not looks, and a very exqual romance.
So, I'm torn between "The little Mermaid" and "Pocahontas" for now..."The little Mermaid" because there is a certain pattern in this movie, that Ariel creates trouble due to her own thoughtless actions, so that her group of friends (all of them male) has to jump in to rescue her. On the other hand, "Pocahontas" with her inability to make any decisions (or stand up against the idea that she needs a strong man to protect her) is somewhat worse...but this movie has at least a somewhat feminist ending to make up for it....
Plus "The little Mermaid" somewhat dives into stereotypes...the gossiping woman who do the wash, this whole "daughters sing the praise of their father" concert, Ariel's sisters who are all only seen in front of their mirrors (they don't even get personalities), the whole "the prince has to marry because we need an heir" matter....
Plus, Pocahontas passes the Bechtel test, The Little Mermaid (and Beauty and the Beast) doesn't.
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AllegroGiocoso picked The Little Memaid:
or Tangled. I agree with Swanpride on Sleeping Beauty.
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sweetie-94 picked ট্যাঙ্গেল্ড:
Either this one or The Little Mermaid.
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princesslullaby picked The Little Memaid:
I also have to think of this as an outside pov, not just within the movie. If feminists had to choose between Sleeping Beauty and The Little Mermaid for feminist representation, they'd pick TLM over Sleeping Beauty. The main character plays a big role in how feminist the movie is, plus the plethora of gender roles in Sleeping Beauty.
I don't consider the fairies protagonists, so I think the movie is slightly less feminist than The Little Mermaid. But, either could go.
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DsnyPrincess picked স্প্লিপিং বিউটি:
Or Tangled
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Swanpride picked The Little Memaid:
@I wouldn't bet on it...TLM must be the most hated DP-movie between die-hart feminists, though for entirely the wrong reasons. I don't know how often I read the "she gives up her voice for a man" argument - which I don't agree with. But neither would I call "The little Mermaid" a feminist movie.
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kirihadaka picked স্প্লিপিং বিউটি:
Breaking it down between the roles the princesses play, the strength and personality of the female villains, the rest of the leading roles, and even the plot...It gets harder and harder to decide. >_o Everyone presents great points, though...
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Mulan is straight up feminist. I can't even believe this is a question. This is a woman who wants to fight for her country. She is told she can't because she is a woman so she challenges social boundaries and does it anyways. She proves that women are just as capable as men and is rewarded in the end even after she is exposed to be a woman and potentially alters the worlds roll of women in war.
That is a whole lot more feminist than any other princess movies... especially beauty and the beast... because Bell is abused... and it makes me sad.
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