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PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked দ্বারা some Twilight অনুরাগী and a few Harry Potter অনুরাগী as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked দ্বারা some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any অনুরাগী post an argument and employes this one as rearguard to fend off counter arguments; অথবা it is used as an counter argument alone. In essence, দ্বারা their logic, invoking jealousy immediately dismisses the opponents argument as defeated, and not worthy of any further discussion.

Now, this type of argument is one of the most atrocious fallacies in existence. Instead of counter-arguing against the opponents arguments, it dismisses them দ্বারা attacking the merit of the person who put the original argument forward. The formal name is Argumentum ad hominem (argument to the person - personal attack fallacy), and in my opinion it is one of the vilest fallacies one can commit.

দ্বারা insulting/attacking the opponent in a debate, one immediately loses several vital things, like respect. Further, insulting one's opponent has not moved the বিতর্ক অগ্রবর্তী as the original arguments remain untouched, and therefore stands until a proper counter-argument takes them down.
In conclusion, calling one's opponent jealous is not helpful at all for one's cause. It firstly removes one's respectfullness; secondly it allows an opponents arguments to stay in place, which is basically handing one's opponents the victory. Now isn't that extremely beneficial for one's cause? Innit?

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS OF ME, THEREFORE MY SERIES IS BETTER"

Secondly, we shall examine the above quote. We pose one important question: Why is this argument false?
Firstly, let us see if there are any connection between these two statements: A persons jealousy and a book series' quality. Then I shall prove to আপনি that jealousy is dependant of quality and not the other way around.

The level of jealousy of any person is most often a most personal feeling. It comes when any other person around us possesses something we do not possess, while this something is a thing we desire to have. Then we are jealous.
The quality of any book series of anything is dependent of several things. The grammatical correctness of the prose and therefore the ability to easily navigate the text, the level of interest they raise in us, the difficulty of the words in the prose, the moral message they present, et cetera. Whereas jealousy only touches the quality of a book series if and only if it is already possessing good quality, for who would even be interested in a book for starters if it is riddled with misspellings, faulty sentence order and promotes values we despise? Let alone desire to possess it?

Thus, jealousy is dependent on the quality of a book series, since it appears after the establishment of ব্যক্ত quality. Therefore stating that quality is dependent on jealousy is inherently contradictory to the above proven hypothesis. So দ্বারা stating the সেকেন্ড hypothesis, one is obliged to prove it in its own term to defeat the contradiction.
As of yet, no one has presented me with convincing evidence that quality is dependent of jealousy. Since I compiled proof of my hypothesis (that jealousy is dependent of quality), I hazard to say that it stands.
Therefore, jealousy depends on quality, not the other way around. Quod Erat Demostrandum - Which was to be proven.

SUMMA SUMMARUM

To call one's opponents jealous while not counter-arguing ব্যক্ত opponents arguments hands ব্যক্ত opponents the victory দ্বারা fiat, while being simultaneously fallacious and unworthy of respect. While arguing that "You're jealous of my book series, therefore my book series has quality" is at least a very false argument.
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posted by harrypotterbest
Harry stood at the forest’s edge without moving. He was thinking to leave, when a flurry of movement within caught his attention. Peering at the massive shape he could see, he realized too late that it was a wolf. He jumped out of the way, and the নেকড়ে landed where he had been a সেকেন্ড before. He looked down at it. The wolf, which had reddish-brown fur, growled up at him. Impulsively Harry withdrew his wand from his jeans pocket.
The নেকড়ে stopped growling when it caught sight of the raised wand. It transformed into a man, and Harry backed up, astonishment on his face. The wolf-man spoke....
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Andrew: Okay, well, it's time now for our interview with the one and only, the fantastic, the charming, the bubbly - as Laura and Elysa described her after the প্রদর্শনী - interview, Stephenie Meyer. And now, for those of আপনি who have read Breaking Dawn অথবা are planning on পাঠ করা it, we do get into the plot of the book, but I inserted a little spoiler warning before Breaking Dawn content so you'll know when to stop it so nothing gets spoiled for you. So, we'll take it away to our interview with Stephenie Meyer. Joining us now is Stephenie Meyer, the লেখক of the highly successful Twilight saga,...
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"Why compare Harry Potter and Twilight? Why would আপনি compare such different things?" are two প্রশ্ন this spot has come across often. And to be honest, it irritates the living crap out of me when people ask this.
The media plays a role in things and this বিতর্ক is no different. On the cover of Breaking Dawn there is a quote from USA Today saying "Move over Harry Potter".(Newsflash, we're not going anywhere) Now, don't tell me that doesn't anger you/ আপনি wouldn't feel angry if আপনি were a Harry Potter fan. "Stephanie Meyer is the new J.K.Rowling." It really pisses me off when people say this...
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posted by TeamSiriusBlack
I did not write this.
1. Bella is a perfect character (“Mary Sue”), which Meyer hides দ্বারা calling her clumsy.

2. Being clumsy is not a flaw if Edward always catches her.
3. She can’t do anything without Edward.
4. And when he leaves she attempts to commit suicide.
5. Meyer is living out her own fantasies দ্বারা লেখা about Bella, who is clearly herself.
6. The বই aren’t well written, just because every other word is a fancy adjective doesn’t make it good writing.
7. All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken দ্বারা the end of the series.
8. Not only that, she breaks rules set by...
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posted by DivyaHarry
These are ট্যাটু of girls who are over-the-top obsessed about Twilight. Click on the লিঙ্ক to see them.

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Are these people kidding themselves? The worst is the Edward Cullen/Robert Pattinson one. Ugh!

I was horrified দ্বারা looking at them. It's one thing to be a part of a fad but it's a whole different thing to make that fad a part of your body.

What is the world coming to? Tomorrow when these girls go to get these horrors removed they'll probably be spending a lot আরো than they spent paying to get it done.
Now here's the thing that seems to be the জনপ্রিয় topic now. Harry Potter বই and the Twilight series. First I'd like to point out I do not call Twilight a "saga" is because well if আপনি look it up আপনি will know why. There's this whole big clash of the Twilight fanatics and the Harry Potter fanatics. I just need to vent out on how I feel about this situation.

Okay if আপনি প্রণয় Twilight than that's fine with me. I respect your opinions, but to me the book was terrible. আপনি can instantly tell that it was Meyer's first book she had ever written. I only hate the book, I don't hate আপনি for liking...
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Bella রাজহাঁস is a complex character. On the one hand she emphasizes the need to be independent, on the other she depends on guys to make her life meaningful. The emphasis on Edward and Jacob being handsome are probably the only reason she wants either of them. Her personality never grows over the course of the বই and thus her interesting-ness is never explored. In contrast; she does take responsibility for her actions. Edward being an abusive, manipulative and obsessive boyfriend has been discussed and beaten to death a million times. But these qualities come across as endearing to Bella....
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A little play.

(setting-a stage. Creepy smoke rolls on ground, odd blue lighting. Edward stands looking at দেওয়াল and thinking)
Edward:Hmmm...
Harry:Hey Edward! What's going on?
(Edward ignores him)
Harry:Is something wrong? Is Bella being a pain or...
Bella: (runs in) WHY ARE আপনি MAKING EDWARD UPSET?
Harry:I'm not trying to-
(Hermione runs in, panting)
Hermione: I heard yelling-what's going on?
Bella: Harry's making Eddieward mad.
Harry:I just asked if he was okay-
Bella:AND THAT MADE HIM UPSET!
Hermione: Bella, calm down.
Bella: DON"T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN আপনি CALM DOWN!!!!!!
Hermione: That's...
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posted by Mysticfallstown
Well i think that it's quite obvious that HARRY POTTER has আরো অনুরাগী than twilight. Cause some people might not of heard of twilight before. I also think that people would like HARRY POTTER better because....

there is আরো action and killing
some people might like wizards better
the weasley brothers are funny

I think people would like TWILIGHT because....

there is আরো love
some people might like ভ্যাম্পায়ার better
it's a great story

I don't have a favourite because i প্রণয় HARRY POTTER and i প্রণয় TWILIGHT.HARRY POTTER and TWILIGHT are amazing.

By, Mysticfallstown xxx
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