Undertale: Do আপনি think only characters with determination can see Save points?

While playing Undertale it's shown that all the characters with at least knowledge of Saving/resets all have Determination. For example, Flowey only started to use them AFTER he had determination put into him for Alphys' , আপনি find about near the end of Pacifist Ending.

However Sans also knows a lot about the resets and other things too. Even though it's never ব্যক্ত Sans had Determination, well it's just a theory but it's possible Sans may be human. With it saying human souls have the power to live outside the body because of their Determination unlike humans souls.

And if আপনি want to go really deep, there is a Monster in the old lads that hides itself as a Save point so it must know অথবা have at least seen what a save point looks like. But even that one has Determination, as every monster in that area was one of the subjects filled with Determination as a test.

So what do আপনি think? Can only things with Determination can see and use Save points?
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Sans_Papyrus said:
I think that that's true because sans is known to be a human অথবা once was a human and flowey does have determination and knows about it too so yea that's my theory.
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Epianoman11 said:
No, because that would imply that Undyne possesses the ability to see save points (because it is evidenced দ্বারা multiple parts of the game that Undyne has "determination"), and it is never shown that she can. As far as the game goes, Sans has never been proven to have "determination," so I don't think that a character has to have that in order to see save points.
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EpicDude777 said:
only charaters with determation the only reason why sans knows is he was with gaster
Proof "OUR reports showed a massive anlomly in the timespace conitum timelines jumping left and right stoping and starting until suddenly everything ends"

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LunaShay said:
I personally don't support the Sans is a human theory, but assuming he isn't, from what we know, all he knows is what is from his reports.

"our reports showed a massive anomaly in the timespace continuum. timelines jumping left and right, stopping and starting... "

How he gets this knowledge is unknown, but he says "our", and our best guess is that it's Alphys he's referring to (with the ending of the Pacifist route, where they talked like they knew each other enforced their relationship, along with the dog খাবার found). He, being a monster soul (from what we know), can not hold DETERMINATION.

Flowey, however, is an exception for it. Flowey has no soul দ্বারা the time he is প্রদত্ত DETERMINATION, giving him the power to use the SAVE/RESET feature. Until a stronger soul, Frisk, came along.

Flowey, of course, as explained with the True Lab and near end No Mercy, has the power to use SAVE/RESET. It was just limited when a stronger soul, Frisk, appeared.

It's an interesting theory, though I don't think monsters, even when injected with it, can see the save points and such like humans/Flowey can. I feel like Flowey was able to obtain it due to being "fused" with Chara when he was Asriel. The power of Chara's DETERMINATION perhaps fused a bit into Asriel's own soul, maybe being a cause to how he lived even after being dusted over a flower, the DETERMINATION Alphys putting into him "awakening him from death".

Besides that, I don't think the Amalgamates don't have the power either, since they are just monster souls, not being combined like Flowey was with an actual human soul.

But নমস্কার just speculation. This is a messy answer but w/e
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Oh, and with the Sans comment: I don't think he can see them, but maybe he's aware of them in a way? Not like he knows every little thing about them, but just some speculation he has about it.
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