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Cinders said:
Debate relevance: Did the hosts of the party have the right to exclude women based on how they dressed?
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Xeginy said:
Great link. Bullshit practice, though. Preventing a woman from entering a venue because she is wearing a veil is exactly the same as preventing her from entering a venue because she is NOT wearing a veil. When will people figure out that the path to "women's liberation" is not, in fact, telling them what they can and cannot wear.
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Just a thought; If preventing these women from entering the party is discrimination, shouldn't we also consider particular dressing codes in social events the same? If the hosts of these events have the right to demand formal clothing, and won't let in people that are dressed casually, why don't the hosts of the party have the right to do something similar?
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Cinders said:
The article answers that point with this. I thought it was put quite nicely:

"There is expectation to observe the dress code required in the setting one is in attendance. For example, wearing business attire to work or a swimsuit to the swimming pool is societal norm. But since hijab can be viewed as a necessity for some women to wear in all aspects of public life, they are being expected to opt out of wearing it to enter certain venues. One commenter cited a pair of eyeglasses as an example of how one that cannot see clearly uses this as an accessory to help him with better vision and would make it ridiculous for him to remove his eyeglasses because it does not fit with the image of the place; these eyeglasses remain an accessory and do not define him as a person, just as a hijab should as well."
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The party is a private event; So why shouldn't the hosts be entitled to demand any dressing code they want? If a woman feels that this code offends her idendity, she can simply not attend the event, since nothing forces her. I'm not saying that I approve of this code; But since the question is: "Did the hosts have the right to do this?" Then yes, of course they have the right. Who shouldn't have the right? Public places like schools and universities that have banned young women from wearing hijabs. That is an actual problem since it interferes with the woman's education and possibly career.
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Cinders said:
"Public places like schools and universities have banned young women from wearing hijabs."

^^ But NOT in a predominantly Muslim or Arab country. Muslims face and are (sadly) very used to discrimination in the Western world, particularly in Europe. This party took place in Cairo, Egypt, not Paris or New York.

I see this not as a dress code, but as a discriminatory practice. As the quoted passage above states, there is a time and a place for all kinds of dress. But a hijab is not just a fashion accessory, it's part of their religion, part of their identity. If hosts of a party said, "No fat girls" or "No black girls" we would definitely say they had no right to say that, and be offended that women have to meet a certain standard of beauty. After all, men don't wear the hijab - this targets Muslim women specifically. And the fact that this is happening in a place where Muslim women thought they wouldn't be discriminated against makes it more surprising.
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^Not attending the party wouldn't affect those women significally, no matter where it occurs, while not attending a school or a university would. My point is that it's a worse form of discrimination, since it can cause much bigger problems for a Muslim woman-she would have to chose between her education and a strong symbol of her belief system.

If hosts of a party said, "No fat girls" or "No black girls" we would definitely say they had no right to say that, and be offended that women have to meet a certain standard of beauty.

Of course I would be offended and dissaprove, just like I do in this particular case; My personal opinion is that the women should enter regarldless their clothing. But not agreeing with something doesn't mean it should be illegal. No matter what the moral thing to do is, shouldn't the people who host a private party be allowed to invite whoever they want and set any dressing codes they want?

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Hijab is the socio-religious identities of the muslim girls and ladies. If people rule the freedom policy in everything then y dont muslims get the freedom of the right to cover their heads or not ot attend a party or a social event!!!!
IS'T THIS DISCRIMINATION!!!!!!!!!
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Jewish women-tichel, Christian nuns-habbit, sikh women and men- turbans, druze women-white head scarf, muslims- some form of "hijab". by denying hijabi or niqabi women to enter a building is offesnsive to all 3 major monotheistic religions and many minor religions as well. No one has the right to stop a religious practice!
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