i've noticed a few people lately saying that "leyton doesnt exist anymore"... so i was just curious what everyones thoughts on the subject were! i for one think that lucas and peyton will always be part of OTH, even if chad and hilarie are gone. just because the actors are gone, doesn't mean that the characters are going to just be erased. they are 2 of the 5 main characters... and they will always be part of the show

Seriously, it's time to MOVE ON.

Who is Leyton? I can't remember lmao

^^ LOL, time to move on?
Jeez, if you think that about Leyton, what about Brucas? We don't have it since season 3, maybe it's time to move on.

Now, i LOVE Brucas (they are my favorite couple, tied with Naley) and i pretty much hate Leyton (no offense), but Leyton and Brucas will ALWAYS be a part of OTH. Especially Leyton, since they were end game.

Plus, how many seasons without Peyton and Lucas will we have? One? Maybe two?
Two seasons without them don't beat the other 6 where they were in the show.

of course they will still be part of the show, they are 2 of the main 5 it will be kinda hard to forget them.

Okay cas_cat, I know we don't usually see eye to eye in this kind of stuff, but that was probably the best and most accurate response I've ever read on this site! Could NOT agree more!

^^ LOL, thanks. =]
Btw, you can call me Catia or Cat, like everybody does xP

And yea, saying that LP is gone and it's time to move on, would be hipocrit of me, since Brucas are gone and i still ship them. Always will. <3
Plus, a LOT of the couples i love didn't have a happy ending.. =[
That's no reason to move on.

Cat i agree with you i mean i can't stand Leyton but doesn't mean they don't exist just because they do not exist on the psychical screen doesn't mean they don't exist.

iloveyou Cat

Aww, i love you too S. <3

I really don't care about LP never have and never will.

lmao. i picked this cuz its how iv always felt about leyton. but yea just cuz theyve left the show doesnt mean they dont exist, they obviously do, i would know since theyve made me cringe tons of times.

They'll always be apart of One Tree Hill, we'll always have memories of them just like we'll always have memories of Brucas, sorry had to throw that in.

Cat ♥♥♥

And add Jeyton to that equation. Just because Jake wasn't a part of the show anymore, that doesn't mean Jeyton lovers should have just stopped shipping them.

And add Jeyton to that equation. Just because Jake wasn't a part of the show anymore, that doesn't mean Jeyton lovers should have just stopped shipping them.
Weeee <33

And Pat. ILY FOR THAT COMMENT! So damn true :)

Oh yea, i'm sorry i forgot Jeyton. =]
Yep, they Jeyton shippers deserve the same respect. <3

And i love you too Tinii! =] <3

Fuck sake some Fans are so effing bitter this is like saying oh keith and Q dnt exsist because they died! they need to move on and accept that LP WERE end game and are a HUGE part of OTH even if they are gone you can say they dont exsist thats just retarded

and technically none of them exsist because its a TV SHOW!

livelovelaugh, how can they exist when they're gone from the show?! It's just as stupid as saying Keith still exist when he DIED a long time ago. Seriously, we won't see them anymore, which means they don't exist? It's a TV show just like you said. If they're not ON the show - they don't exist. It's as simple as that.

I totally agree with you, OMGitsBrooke!

^ to answer your alls question... Lucas and Peyton the CHARACTERS still exist! Just because the actors are gone doesn't mean that Lucas and Peyton aren't part of the show anymore. Remember how Karen was in season 5? Her character was still part of the show, we just physically didn't see her. I would even go as far as saying that Keith and Q don't exist anymore... Because their characters died. But we all know that the CHARACTERS Lucas and Peyton didn't die, they are still a part of the show whether they are physically in tree hill or not.

It's garauteed that their names will be mentioned and referred to probably multiple times in season 7. I'm sorry but anyone that thinks that Lucas and Peyton "don't exist", or that they won't always be a part of the show in one way or another is crazy lol

They will always be a part of the HISTORY. But they're gone now and that's the same thing as saying they don't exist. How can you even say that they do?! It's ridiculous. And how can you compare this to Karen? LMAO. Karen was away for a time (traveling or something) but we KNEW she would come back, Leyton won't come back. Chad and Hilarie has already said "goodbye" to everyone.

Oh my lord the characters lucas and Peyton still exist they just aren't living in tree hill anymore! If you want to say that TO YOU they don't exist anymore, then that's one thing. But they DO still exist as characters in the show and that's just fact. just wait till season 7, they will still be in the show whether they are physically there or not (letters, emails, phone calls, photos...).

And why on earth can't I compare them to Karen? It's the exact same thing. Call me crazy, but we didn't KNOW for a fact that Karen would be returning... They just surprised us and she made a couple guest appearances. AND who is to say that Chad and hilarie won't? Who cares if they have said their goodbyes? That means they can't ever come back for an appearance or two? Especially the series finale, which I'm sure mark will want them back for

Seriously this is not that hard of a concept to understand... and based on the poll results, you're clearly the odd ball here... Not the 80% of us that say they do still exist

This is the first tim in history where i agree with kellyerin this is exactly the same as karen/keith/Q/Jake if leyton dont exsist this means breyton/brucas/paley/lathan/laley dont exsist!

"Oh my lord the characters lucas and Peyton still exist they just aren't living in tree hill anymore! "

= We won't see them = They don't exist!

What you're saying doesn't make any sense to me, who cares if 80% agree with you?! Should I change my opinion just because of that? HELL NO. They don't exist anymore. End of discussion. I'm so fucking happy their gone. FINALLY!

I never said you had to change your beliefs because more people agree with me. But you're talking to me like my opinion is just SO unheard of and doesn't make ANY sense... But it obviously does, if 80% of these voters agree with it. You're opinion is clearly the weird one here, not mine

lol but you just keep enjoying living in your little dreamland, where leyton "don't exist" and one tree hill now suddenly consists of only Brooke and naley... lol funny stuff.

I could write an essay on this, but it would end up just repeating EXACTLY what Cat stated.
Gone or not, they were end game, and will ALWAYS be a part of the show.
Same as Jeyton, same as Brucas.
If Naley left, would everyone want to forget about them, and pretend they never happened??

"lol but you just keep enjoying living in your little dreamland"

Why does it feel like you're talking to yourself? lol i think you're the one who's living in a dreamland because you love Leyton and obviously don't want them to be gone, but seriously they ARE gone. The sooner you realize it, the better for you.

And even if they did "exist", we can't see them anymore. If a person died in REAL life would you actually say that the person still exist? Because i've never heard anyone say something like that before. And yeah, Lucas and Peyton aren't dead but since we don't see them in the show anymore they definitely don't exist either. If you don't agree, then fine. Because unlike you I don't feel like I have to have someone who agrees with me 100% to stand up for my opinion.

Ok lets set this straight yes Chad and Hil are gone but that doesn't mean lp are for a matter of fact this happens all the time on tv shows just because actors leave doesn't mean that their characters are not part of it. just because you hate Leyton doesn't mean you can say they don't exist that's the dumbest thing i have ever heard

^ lol THANK YOU dermer4ever!

And I don't need people to agree with me in order for me to stand by my opinion. But if 80% of these voters do have to same opinion that I do... Then obviously that says something. And yes, you are the one living in a dreamland because you're clearly just in denial that LP still are part of the show... Just because you don't like them. Well they ARE still part of the show, and always will be... And a BIG part at that.

guys just leave it now okay. this isnt going anywhere. i agree with you cat,T,kellyerin all the rest of you. but im not gonna argue with this person (makes a change, i know).

she obviously doesnt want to believe that LP are still a part of the show. personally i think thats stupid,petty and pathetic. but shes not gonna change, shes just gonna keep arguing back, so its best just to leave her.

whether LP are gone or not they will always be a part of the show just because theyve been there for 6 series, the majority of the show. But then again, how long theyve been there doesnt matter to me, because rachel still exists, nikki exists,jake still exists; and they havnt been a part of the show nearly as much as LP.

unless they come up with a wacky storyline were LP vanish off the face of the earth, then they will always exist. ok.

thats just what i believe. you guys are just better leaving OMGperson to her own world were she chooses to believe they dont exist, because she doesnt want them to.

Well said Laurra... You're probably right! :)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

dermer4ever, I can't believe you, you're suppose to be a brucas fan yet you defend LP fans after everything they've said to us about Brucas being crap compared to Leyton and that we should get over them because they don't exist anymore blah blah blah. Don't you remember how they treated us?! LOL. What kind of fan are you anyway?!

As for you "Laurra", you can say whatever you want about me but seriously don't pretend like you know me, because you DON'T. So just zip it.

You make me look like the "bad" person here when all I did was sharing my opinion - like everyone else. But just because it wasn't like everybody elses opinion I'm the one who's wrong and living in a dream? LMAO. Does it look like I care about you guys?! Seriously, I don't. And i won't change my opinion just because some people don't agree with me. LOL just fuck off and stop bugging me. Gosh. I'm so sick of people trying to make EVERYONE think like them and if someone doesn't agree with them they freak out. Seriously, get over yourselves.

dermer4ever, I can't believe you, you're suppose to be a brucas fan yet you defend LP fans after everything they've said to us about Brucas being crap compared to Leyton and that we should get over them because they don't exist anymore blah blah blah. Don't you remember how they treated us?! LOL. What kind of fan are you anyway?!

LMFAO! This is called not to be a biased fan, and being capable of seeing BOTH sides.
First of all, I’m not freaking out here. I just think it’s hilarious that this pick has so many comments.
I don't really care, you have your opinion and we have ours. And speaking of having an opinion, i don't see how you can ship Brucas if for you, Leyton leaving the show means the end of Leyton. Still, you ship BL. Do you like to ship dead things, then?
But like you said, it’s your opinion and I honestly don’t want you to change it, because I hate people who are always changing their minds. xP

Anyways, i don't care about you either. So yea. =P

I never said Leyton fans couldn't ship Leyton? What are you talking about?! Did i say anything about that? No, I most certainly did not. You need to read the comments BEFORE you open your mouth next time!!

Seriously though, I just find it really funny that so many people have to jump on one person lol this was between me and Kellyerin87. But whatever ;)

"This is called not to be a biased fan, and being capable of seeing BOTH sides."

Yeah and there's also something called "treat people the way they treat you". If Dermer or whatever her/his name is, wants to defend LP fans, fine. But I will never forget the things they've said to me and other BL fans. They can just go to hell, for all I care.

There's only ONE person i like who is a LP fan. Can you imagine that?! ONE out of so many lol that says alot. They don't respect other peoples opinion. So therefore i don't respect them :)

Seriously, if they don't care enough to respect us, why in the hell should we respect them? Go figure.

just because i am a Brucas fan doesn't mean i have to side with BLers 24/7 and for you information i am the most openminded bler you will find and the most nicest and just because we do not ship the same couple doesn't mean we can't agree on things. everyone is entitled to their opinion but don't tell me what sides to take.

Nobody is picking on you or bothering you, you're not a victim here. When you're opinion differs from so many other peoples, and when you spend so much time voicing it, and bringing yourself into this discussion... ofcourse you are going to get some replies and some feedback from other voters.

And you're calling LP fans disrespectful? I believe I came across a pick the other day, where you said something along the lines of "are all leyton fans as stupid as you?" to another LP fan on here... Talk about disrespectful. And I have come across FEW BLers that respect other peoples opinions... So it works both ways.

The fact that you would honestly go as far as saying that all LP fans can go to hell is just absolutely ridiculous and kind of sad

No, i just find it a little weird because trust me no LP fan would've done the same for you. So you're just stupid. But whatever i'm not going to fight with you for no reason.

"Everyone is entitled to their opinion" - then I guess you guys don't have a problem with me and my opinion? Because everyone is entitled to their opinion right?

kellyerin87, didn't I just say I treat people the way they treat me? So yeah, i said that and lol i can say it 123935048966579823423289685097809096764579­876­569 times more if you want because i stick to my opinion unlike some people (no names mentioned!).

There you go again, calling people stupid that didn't say anything offensive like that to you. Perfect example of you treating people how they treat you right? Don't think so. Whatever this is so not worth my time anymore

yes you are and i respect it but do not tell me i can't defend a lper i do not like that and i do not like be called out at all.

"Whatever this is so not worth my time anymore" that's so typical Leyton fans LMAO. Seriously, just cut the crap! Don't you think I know that you don't have anything more to say?! Pretending like you have something more important to do is just so not the best way of ending a conversation.

Dermer4ever, I never said you can't defend a LPer I just find it really weird and I still do. I mean, do you REALLY think any of them would do that for you? HELL NO. They would never have done that for you or any other Brucas fan, even if they did thing you were right they wouldn't.

actually they do i have been here a long time and yes we do have some fights but we do defend each other and i know plenty of lpers would defend them and i know lot of the lpers on this site and they are ok people and i know that the ones i am friends with would defended be no question and that comment about a typical lp response is not true she is just walking away before it gets heated it happens all the time

Sooo... Because I'm tired of saying the SAME crap over and over, that means that I "have nothing better to say"? Did you ever think that it just means I'm sick if this never ending, dumb argument that is getting us nowhere?!? If you want to continue fighting an uphill battle by yourself, then go right ahead. But your last few posts just show me that there really is just no point in arguing with someone like you. You're in your own little anti leyton, and anti leyton fans dreamland... And I'm not about to waste anymore of my time talking to someone as immature, and disrepectful, and close minded as you

I'm sure you've made the brucas fanbase proud... lol

So you talk for leyton fans now too? WOW. Do you have a youtube account? I bet you have.. Go there and watch some leyton/brucas videos and you'll see for yourself ;)

Kellyerin87, didn't you say you were done?! OMAJGAD, you can't be serious? I just said my opinion like E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E else did and you couldn't deal with the fact that NOT everyone share the same opinion as you. You were the one who started the whole thing - don't forget that.

No, you didn't "just share your opinion like everyone else". You called people stupid, insulted the entire Leyton fanbase when no insulting comments were being made about brucas or their fans, and even insulted brucas fans for (heaven forbid) sticking up for an LPer. Everyone else was just giving their opinion about the show and about Leyton, YOU were the one that took it to the next level, and started making the discussion ugly

I'm done. This is pathetic.

look i am not saying they are perfect but just because some of them act like idiots and are immature doesn't mean you have to be to and no i am not speaking for them but you can't say that they are all a like because they are not if you would just get to know lpers you would actually see that they are pretty awesome people

"livelovelaugh, how can they exist when they're gone from the show?! It's just as stupid as saying Keith still exist when he DIED a long time ago. Seriously, we won't see them anymore, which means they don't exist? It's a TV show just like you said. If they're not ON the show - they don't exist. It's as simple as that."

Do you call that insulting Leyton/Brucas fans? LOL you still started the whole thing it doesn't matter what I said when we were FIGHTING, the only thing that matters is how it got started and you are responsible for that :)

do not bring dawn into this she did not start it at all she was just trying to point out that just because Keith was dead didn't mean he was not part of the show. we did not start this fight we were just trying to explain things then you took things out of context and called out people.

dermer4ever, i have talked/fought to/with alot of LP fans and like I said there's only one of all those LP fans i've talked with i like, she's seriously the nicest person ever and we get along very well so I can't say EVERY LP fan is like that because i obviously don't know every single one either but out of those i've talked to i can honestly say that most of them aren't nice people.

And yeah i don't have to sink to their level but i do it anyway because i'm so sick of the whole thing. Seriously, it's a tv show and some people seem to forget that (including myself!).

I'm sorry but who is dawn? Livelovelaugh? Because i just copied my first comment, the one Kelly responded to..

This is ridiculous.

Of course they're still there, just can't see em.

Point, Blank, Period.

Example: You and a person are best friends for 6 years, they move and you never see them again...except possibly phones calls or letters or visits (which i'm sure will probably happen in S7)

Does that mean they dropped off the face of the earth? That they aren't out there in the world somewhere? That they don't exist?

Hm, no.

It just means that they aren't near you anymore and you can't physically see them.

This is the same concept with Leyton, they may not be there physically but they didn't just disappear.

As many of you have stated before me.

Leyton are existent. Thats all there is to it.

We have already talked about this, no point of bringing it all up again lmao. That's YOUR opinion.

I'm not asking to bring it up again.

You're the one coming on here calling out MY opinion.

If everyone elses opinion is a big fucking deal then take this off your update list and leave it the fuck alone.

Did I call your dumbass out? No, I didn't I simply stated that this is fucking ridiculous.

Is it really necessary for all of you to go against Leyla. I mean the things you say has already been said from the others and i don't think Leyla will or should change her opinion just because you don't agree with her.

You said it yourself this is ridiculous so just leave it. 5 people against 1 that's so not fair and if it was me i would never put up with so many against me, if two people are arguing why should everyone else get involved? You made it a big fucking deal by getting involved. The way I see it Leyla hasn't done anything to be treated like this and don't call her a dumbass. You don't even know her.

-facepalm-

I didn't say anything to her.
I came on the pick and added my response to the pick.
I didn't put any names.
SHE came on here all like we covered this thats YOUR opinion blah blah blah.
I didn't say shit to her.

So is it necessary for everyone to go against her?
Nah I don't think so...
Has anyone went against her in the past like what 10 hours?
No.

So why defend someone that is in the wrong? -shrugs-
Might wanna think about that.

My comment wasn't directed at anyone, what-so-ever.

What am I supposed to do?
Not respond when she responded to me on something that isn't even her pick?
Sorry, I'm not that kind of person.

Did you ever think that it maybe felt like everyone was against her and she just wanted to point out that she wasn't going to argue about it anymore? And you can't honestly say that you weren't against her because i read your comment and it definitely felt like you were writing it to her.

Anyway, i think it was really unnecessary for you to repeat what all the others already had said and when you did that you kind of made the whole thing bigger then it was before. So what if you all don't agree on this Leyton thing? Does it really matter?

"Has anyone went against her in the past like what 10 hours?
No."

Seriously, 2 days ago or 2 hours ago it doesn't matter. The point is that you all went against her and i still don't find that fair in any way. You all just repeated what the other one already had said. And she didn't even say anything to make you so mad at her because all she did was expressing her opinion which I think was great because everyone has different opinions that's what's so funny. You can learn to see things in a different way. And you don't always have to agree with someone.

Ya know what?
I'm really open minded when it comes to this stuff.

And I read thru the arguement and I agreed with some of the stuff she said and I agreed with what others said.
Sure I restated what others have before but in every pick it is constantly: repeating, agreeing, repeating, agreeing.

That's how its been and thats how it'll continue to be.

I apologize to her if she feels that it was against her but I honestly didn't mean for it to be.

I can't speak for her and i don't know if she felt like that, but i definitely felt that way when i read through the comments.

But anyway, I think it's great that you're seeing it from both sides.

Ok.
Good then.
That's settled.

Yep.

aw thank you so much Michelle it means alot to me to have someone like you on my side! ♥

No problem hun, they don't even know how amazing you are :) <3

blhardcore lover, you are a fake account.

stupid lp haters, you don't have an OPINION whether leyton 'exist' or not, you are all just too stupid to see that people/characters will always exist unless they die.

and seriously, stop thinking that bl fans and lp fans still hate each other, we stopped that about a year ago before you guys even joined fanpop, so don;t pretend you know how this site works.

I have been on other sites, but i haven't been here for so long so i don't know how it works here and i don't pretend like i do either. I know some of the people here from other sites too. But why are you calling me fake? That's just ridiculous you can check my youtube account if you don't believe me "BrucasLoverAlways" or my facebook "Michelle Calvimonte".

no comment on the fake count thing but the thing is we are actually friends just because we ship different couples doesn't mean we are not friends for over year we have been good and not gotten into anything serious and you will learn and sometimes its best to stay away from this spot because a lot of the newbies turn everything into a fight

But i have not fought with anyone you guys were figthing i'm not even involved in this i am actually friends with alot of lp fans

i do think leyton still exist i have not said anything about it

Darling, by your logic space ships don't exits.

I don't see any in my roo therefore it can't be true!
Stop being a twat xp

And I agree with everyone who it sounds like I'm agreeing with.

No way..they have been a big part of the show!

Their not my favorite couple on the show!! But they ARE a part of one tree hill! so its going to be sad to see them go!

Yes of Course!!!

2 Best couple ever!

How can any couple doesn't exist?